From: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
To: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V7 5/6] arm64/perf: Add branch stack support in ARMV8 PMU
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2023 19:36:00 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Y+P5oGRfdaCYRkbL@FVFF77S0Q05N.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <bdcc2d71-b216-ade6-203d-0a527d0503ff@arm.com>
On Fri, Jan 13, 2023 at 10:41:51AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
>
>
> On 1/12/23 19:59, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 05, 2023 at 08:40:38AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> >> @@ -878,6 +890,13 @@ static irqreturn_t armv8pmu_handle_irq(struct arm_pmu *cpu_pmu)
> >> if (!armpmu_event_set_period(event))
> >> continue;
> >>
> >> + if (has_branch_stack(event)) {
> >> + WARN_ON(!cpuc->branches);
> >> + armv8pmu_branch_read(cpuc, event);
> >> + data.br_stack = &cpuc->branches->branch_stack;
> >> + data.sample_flags |= PERF_SAMPLE_BRANCH_STACK;
> >> + }
> >
> > How do we ensure the data we're getting isn't changed under our feet? Is BRBE
> > disabled at this point?
>
> Right, BRBE is paused after a PMU IRQ. We also ensure the buffer is disabled for
> all exception levels, i.e removing BRBCR_EL1_E0BRE/E1BRE from the configuration,
> before initiating the actual read, which eventually populates the data.br_stack.
Ok; just to confirm, what exactly is the condition that enforces that BRBE is
disabled? Is that *while* there's an overflow asserted, or does something else
get set at the instant the overflow occurs?
What exactly is necessary for it to start again?
> > Is this going to have branches after taking the exception, or does BRBE stop
> > automatically at that point? If so we presumably need to take special care as
> > to when we read this relative to enabling/disabling and/or manipulating the
> > overflow bits.
>
> The default BRBE configuration includes setting BRBCR_EL1.FZP, enabling BRBE to
> be paused automatically, right after a PMU IRQ. Regardless, before reading the
> buffer, BRBE is paused (BRBFCR_EL1.PAUSED) and disabled for all privilege levels
> ~(BRBCR_EL1.E0BRE/E1BRE) which ensures that no new branch record is getting into
> the buffer, while it is being read for perf right buffer.
Ok; I think we could do with some comments as to this.
>
> >
> >> +
> >> /*
> >> * Perf event overflow will queue the processing of the event as
> >> * an irq_work which will be taken care of in the handling of
> >> @@ -976,6 +995,14 @@ static int armv8pmu_user_event_idx(struct perf_event *event)
> >> return event->hw.idx;
> >> }
> >>
> >> +static void armv8pmu_sched_task(struct perf_event_pmu_context *pmu_ctx, bool sched_in)
> >> +{
> >> + struct arm_pmu *armpmu = to_arm_pmu(pmu_ctx->pmu);
> >> +
> >> + if (sched_in && arm_pmu_branch_stack_supported(armpmu))
> >> + armv8pmu_branch_reset();
> >> +}
> >
> > When scheduling out, shouldn't we save what we have so far?
> >
> > It seems odd that we just throw that away rather than placing it into a FIFO.
>
> IIRC we had discussed this earlier, save and restore mechanism will be added
> later, not during this enablement patch series.
Sorry, but why?
I don't understand why it's acceptable to non-deterministically throw away data
for now. At the least that's going to confuse users, especially as the
observable behaviour may change if and when that's added later.
I assume that there's some reason that it's painful to do that? Could you
please elaborate on that?
> For now resetting the buffer ensures that branch records from one session
> does not get into another.
I agree that it's necessary to do that, but as above I don't believe it's
sufficient.
> Note that these branches cannot be pushed into perf ring buffer either, as
> there was no corresponding PMU interrupt to be associated with.
I'm not suggesting we put it in the perf ring buffer; I'm suggesting that we
snapshot it into *some* kernel-internal storage, then later reconcile that.
Maybe that's far more painful than I expect?
Thanks,
Mark.
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Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-05 3:10 [PATCH V7 0/6] arm64/perf: Enable branch stack sampling Anshuman Khandual
2023-01-05 3:10 ` [PATCH V7 1/6] drivers: perf: arm_pmu: Add new sched_task() callback Anshuman Khandual
2023-01-05 3:10 ` [PATCH V7 2/6] arm64/perf: Add BRBE registers and fields Anshuman Khandual
2023-01-12 13:24 ` Mark Rutland
2023-01-13 3:02 ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-02-08 19:22 ` Mark Rutland
2023-02-09 5:49 ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-02-09 10:08 ` Mark Rutland
2023-01-05 3:10 ` [PATCH V7 3/6] arm64/perf: Add branch stack support in struct arm_pmu Anshuman Khandual
2023-01-12 13:54 ` Mark Rutland
2023-01-13 4:15 ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-02-08 19:26 ` Mark Rutland
2023-02-09 3:40 ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-01-05 3:10 ` [PATCH V7 4/6] arm64/perf: Add branch stack support in struct pmu_hw_events Anshuman Khandual
2023-01-12 13:59 ` Mark Rutland
2023-01-05 3:10 ` [PATCH V7 5/6] arm64/perf: Add branch stack support in ARMV8 PMU Anshuman Khandual
2023-01-12 14:29 ` Mark Rutland
2023-01-13 5:11 ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-02-08 19:36 ` Mark Rutland [this message]
2023-02-13 8:23 ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-02-23 13:47 ` Mark Rutland
2023-03-06 7:59 ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-01-05 3:10 ` [PATCH V7 6/6] arm64/perf: Enable branch stack events via FEAT_BRBE Anshuman Khandual
2023-01-12 16:51 ` Mark Rutland
2023-01-19 2:48 ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-02-08 20:03 ` Mark Rutland
2023-02-20 8:38 ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-02-23 13:38 ` Mark Rutland
2023-01-06 10:23 ` [PATCH V7 0/6] arm64/perf: Enable branch stack sampling James Clark
2023-01-06 11:13 ` Anshuman Khandual
2023-01-11 5:05 ` Anshuman Khandual
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