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From: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
To: Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>
Cc: kvmarm@lists.linux.dev, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Oliver Upton <oupton@kernel.org>, Joey Gouly <joey.gouly@arm.com>,
	Suzuki K Poulose <suzuki.poulose@arm.com>,
	Zenghui Yu <yuzenghui@huawei.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Quentin Perret <qperret@google.com>,
	Fuad Tabba <tabba@google.com>,
	Vincent Donnefort <vdonnefort@google.com>,
	Mostafa Saleh <smostafa@google.com>,
	Alexandru Elisei <alexandru.elisei@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 30/36] KVM: arm64: Allow userspace to create protected VMs when pKVM is enabled
Date: Mon, 23 Mar 2026 15:00:10 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <acFVeqB2P0rKqvBu@willie-the-truck> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <865x6q63fu.wl-maz@kernel.org>

On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 01:22:29PM +0000, Marc Zyngier wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Mar 2026 14:43:43 +0000,
> Will Deacon <will@kernel.org> wrote:
> > 
> > Introduce a new VM type for KVM/arm64 to allow userspace to request the
> > creation of a "protected VM" when the host has booted with pKVM enabled.
> > 
> > For now, this depends on CONFIG_EXPERT and results in a taint on first
> > use as many aspects of a protected VM are not yet protected!
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>
> > ---
> >  arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_pkvm.h |  2 +-
> >  arch/arm64/kvm/Kconfig            | 10 ++++++++++
> >  arch/arm64/kvm/arm.c              |  8 +++++++-
> >  arch/arm64/kvm/mmu.c              |  3 ---
> >  arch/arm64/kvm/pkvm.c             | 11 ++++++++++-
> >  include/uapi/linux/kvm.h          |  5 +++++
> >  6 files changed, 33 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_pkvm.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_pkvm.h
> > index 7041e398fb4c..2954b311128c 100644
> > --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_pkvm.h
> > +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/kvm_pkvm.h
> > @@ -17,7 +17,7 @@
> >  
> >  #define HYP_MEMBLOCK_REGIONS 128
> >  
> > -int pkvm_init_host_vm(struct kvm *kvm);
> > +int pkvm_init_host_vm(struct kvm *kvm, unsigned long type);
> >  int pkvm_create_hyp_vm(struct kvm *kvm);
> >  bool pkvm_hyp_vm_is_created(struct kvm *kvm);
> >  void pkvm_destroy_hyp_vm(struct kvm *kvm);
> > diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/Kconfig b/arch/arm64/kvm/Kconfig
> > index 7d1f22fd490b..e71f7fb6e89a 100644
> > --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/Kconfig
> > +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/Kconfig
> > @@ -82,4 +82,14 @@ config PTDUMP_STAGE2_DEBUGFS
> >  
> >  	  If in doubt, say N.
> >  
> > +config PROTECTED_VM_UAPI
> > +	bool "Expose protected VMs to userspace (experimental)"
> > +	depends on KVM && EXPERT
> > +	help
> > +	  Say Y here to enable experimental (i.e. in development)
> > +	  support for creating protected virtual machines using KVM's
> > +	  KVM_CREATE_VM ioctl() when booted with pKVM enabled.
> > +
> > +	  Unless you are a KVM developer, say N.
> > +
> 
> Let me once more express my lack of appetite for config options.
> Protected more is already gated by a command-line option, and requires
> active buy-in from the user.
> 
> Nested support is in the same "not quite finished" state, and yet
> isn't hidden behind a configuration symbol.
> 
> Taint the kernel if you want, but I'd rather we don't add extra config
> options for this. Documenting the "experimental" aspect of upstream
> pKVM should be enough.

Since I _do_ expect the user ABI to evolve (probably becoming stricter)
as we introduce additional protection to parts of the protected VM
state, I just went for the full shebang: CONFIG option, cmdline option
and taint.

I tend to agree that having *all* of that is overkill, so if you're
happy for me to drop the CONFIG option, despite the user ABI not being
stable, then I'm fine with that.

Will


  reply	other threads:[~2026-03-23 15:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-05 14:43 [PATCH v3 00/36] KVM: arm64: Add support for protected guest memory with pKVM Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 01/36] KVM: arm64: Don't leak stage-2 page-table if VM fails to init under pKVM Will Deacon
2026-03-11 12:48   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 02/36] KVM: arm64: Move handle check into pkvm_pgtable_stage2_destroy_range() Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:15   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 03/36] KVM: arm64: Rename __pkvm_pgtable_stage2_unmap() Will Deacon
2026-03-11 12:49   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 04/36] KVM: arm64: Don't advertise unsupported features for protected guests Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:15   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 05/36] KVM: arm64: Expose self-hosted debug regs as RAZ/WI " Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 06/36] KVM: arm64: Remove is_protected_kvm_enabled() checks from hypercalls Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:16   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 07/36] KVM: arm64: Ignore MMU notifier callbacks for protected VMs Will Deacon
2026-03-11 12:50   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 08/36] KVM: arm64: Prevent unsupported memslot operations on " Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:16   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 09/36] KVM: arm64: Ignore -EAGAIN when mapping in pages for the pKVM host Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:10   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 10/36] KVM: arm64: Split teardown hypercall into two phases Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:22   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 11/36] KVM: arm64: Introduce __pkvm_host_donate_guest() Will Deacon
2026-03-20 12:38   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-03-23 14:55     ` Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 12/36] KVM: arm64: Hook up donation hypercall to pkvm_pgtable_stage2_map() Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 13/36] KVM: arm64: Handle aborts from protected VMs Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:22   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 14/36] KVM: arm64: Introduce __pkvm_reclaim_dying_guest_page() Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 15/36] KVM: arm64: Hook up reclaim hypercall to pkvm_pgtable_stage2_destroy() Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 16/36] KVM: arm64: Factor out pKVM host exception injection logic Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:12   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 17/36] KVM: arm64: Support translation faults in inject_host_exception() Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:12   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 18/36] KVM: arm64: Inject SIGSEGV on illegal accesses Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:13   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 19/36] KVM: arm64: Avoid pointless annotation when mapping host-owned pages Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 20/36] KVM: arm64: Generalise kvm_pgtable_stage2_set_owner() Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 21/36] KVM: arm64: Introduce host_stage2_set_owner_metadata_locked() Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 22/36] KVM: arm64: Change 'pkvm_handle_t' to u16 Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 23/36] KVM: arm64: Annotate guest donations with handle and gfn in host stage-2 Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 24/36] KVM: arm64: Introduce hypercall to force reclaim of a protected page Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 25/36] KVM: arm64: Reclaim faulting page from pKVM in spurious fault handler Will Deacon
2026-03-20 16:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-03-21  9:39     ` Marc Zyngier
2026-03-23 14:58       ` Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 26/36] KVM: arm64: Return -EFAULT from VCPU_RUN on access to a poisoned pte Will Deacon
2026-03-20 16:35   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-03-23 14:58     ` Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 27/36] KVM: arm64: Add hvc handler at EL2 for hypercalls from protected VMs Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 28/36] KVM: arm64: Implement the MEM_SHARE hypercall for " Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 29/36] KVM: arm64: Implement the MEM_UNSHARE " Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 30/36] KVM: arm64: Allow userspace to create protected VMs when pKVM is enabled Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:25   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-20 13:22   ` Marc Zyngier
2026-03-23 15:00     ` Will Deacon [this message]
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 31/36] KVM: arm64: Add some initial documentation for pKVM Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:25   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 32/36] KVM: arm64: Extend pKVM page ownership selftests to cover guest donation Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 33/36] KVM: arm64: Register 'selftest_vm' in the VM table Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 34/36] KVM: arm64: Extend pKVM page ownership selftests to cover forced reclaim Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 35/36] KVM: arm64: Extend pKVM page ownership selftests to cover guest hvcs Will Deacon
2026-03-05 14:43 ` [PATCH v3 36/36] KVM: arm64: Rename PKVM_PAGE_STATE_MASK Will Deacon
2026-03-11 10:26   ` Fuad Tabba
2026-03-11 10:07 ` [PATCH v3 00/36] KVM: arm64: Add support for protected guest memory with pKVM Fuad Tabba

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