* [RFC PATCH 0/2] Optimize S2 page splitting
@ 2026-05-15 19:59 Leonardo Bras
2026-05-15 19:59 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] KVM: arm64: Introduce S2 walker SKIP return options Leonardo Bras
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From: Leonardo Bras @ 2026-05-15 19:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Marc Zyngier, Oliver Upton, Joey Gouly, Suzuki K Poulose,
Zenghui Yu, Catalin Marinas, Will Deacon, Fuad Tabba,
Leonardo Bras, Raghavendra Rao Ananta
Cc: linux-arm-kernel, kvmarm, linux-kernel
While playing with dirty-bit tracking, I decided to take a look on how page
splitting works. Found out all entries are walked, even though we can infer,
for instance that:
- If a level-3 entry is walked, it means the parent level-2 entry is split
- If a split just succeeded in an table entry, it means all children nodes
are already split
So I tried to optimize it in a way that it does not break other users.
My main idea is to introduce positive return values that hint to the
pagetable walking mechanism that either siblings or children can be
skipped. That should be contained to the visitor function, that returns
zero if no error was detected.
Numbers on above optimization are promising:
A 1GB VM, running on the model, splitting all at the beginning
(no manual protect):
- Memory was already split (4k pages): -97.33% runtime (-172ms) - 20 runs
- THP backed memory: -19.82% runtime (-153ms) - 10 runs
- 1x1GB hugetlb memory: -20.65% runtime (-150ms) - 10 runs
This is measured with this snippet[1].
I ran at least 10 times on different 1GB VMs, to make sure the numbers are
consistent.
Ideas I considered:
- Using a negative return value, using kvm_pgtable_walk_continue to
filter it as a non-error, but decided that is kind of counter-intuitive
- Using the introduced return values to hint the split walker to not
splitting level-2 blocks (or level-1), if by adding a new parameter in
kvm_pgtable_stage2_split() and carrying it over to the walker using
ctx->arg. (Splitting only up to given hugepage size)
- Looking at other walkers, and trying to think on scenarios to
optimize them using the new return values.
Do you think it is worth doing this?
Please provide feedback!
Thanks!
Leo
[1]:
diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/mmu.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/mmu.c
index d089c107d9b7..6424e833b7be 100644
--- a/arch/arm64/kvm/mmu.c
+++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/mmu.c
@@ -1272,22 +1273,26 @@ static void kvm_mmu_split_memory_region(struct kvm *kvm, int slot)
phys_addr_t start, end;
lockdep_assert_held(&kvm->slots_lock);
slots = kvm_memslots(kvm);
memslot = id_to_memslot(slots, slot);
start = memslot->base_gfn << PAGE_SHIFT;
end = (memslot->base_gfn + memslot->npages) << PAGE_SHIFT;
+
write_lock(&kvm->mmu_lock);
+ u64 sw = ktime_get_real_ns();
kvm_mmu_split_huge_pages(kvm, start, end);
+ sw = ktime_get_real_ns() - sw;
+ printk("split from %llx to %llx took %llu ns\n", start, end, sw);
write_unlock(&kvm->mmu_lock);
}
Leonardo Bras (2):
KVM: arm64: Introduce S2 walker SKIP return options
KVM: arm64: Improve splitting performance by using SKIP return values
arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/pgtable.c | 32 +++++++++++++++++++++++++-------
1 file changed, 25 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-)
base-commit: 5d6919055dec134de3c40167a490f33c74c12581
--
2.54.0
^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread* [RFC PATCH 1/2] KVM: arm64: Introduce S2 walker SKIP return options 2026-05-15 19:59 [RFC PATCH 0/2] Optimize S2 page splitting Leonardo Bras @ 2026-05-15 19:59 ` Leonardo Bras 2026-05-18 7:22 ` Oliver Upton 2026-05-15 19:59 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] KVM: arm64: Improve splitting performance by using SKIP return values Leonardo Bras 2026-05-16 9:15 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Optimize S2 page splitting Marc Zyngier 2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Leonardo Bras @ 2026-05-15 19:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Marc Zyngier, Oliver Upton, Joey Gouly, Suzuki K Poulose, Zenghui Yu, Catalin Marinas, Will Deacon, Fuad Tabba, Leonardo Bras, Raghavendra Rao Ananta Cc: linux-arm-kernel, kvmarm, linux-kernel Introduce S2 walker return values: - SKIP_CHILDREN: skip walking the children of the current node - SKIP_SIBLINGS: skip waling the siblings of the current node Also, modify __kvm_pgtable_visit() to fulfil the hing on above return values. Current walkers should not be impacted Signed-off-by: Leonardo Bras <leo.bras@arm.com> --- arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/pgtable.c | 20 ++++++++++++++++---- 1 file changed, 16 insertions(+), 4 deletions(-) diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/pgtable.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/pgtable.c index 0c1defa5fb0f..4e43339522bb 100644 --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/pgtable.c +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/pgtable.c @@ -12,20 +12,26 @@ #include <asm/stage2_pgtable.h> struct kvm_pgtable_walk_data { struct kvm_pgtable_walker *walker; const u64 start; u64 addr; const u64 end; }; +/* Positive walker return values point levels to skip */ +enum walker_return{ + SKIP_CHILDREN = 1, + SKIP_SIBLINGS +}; + static bool kvm_pgtable_walk_skip_bbm_tlbi(const struct kvm_pgtable_visit_ctx *ctx) { return unlikely(ctx->flags & KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_SKIP_BBM_TLBI); } static bool kvm_pgtable_walk_skip_cmo(const struct kvm_pgtable_visit_ctx *ctx) { return unlikely(ctx->flags & KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_SKIP_CMO); } @@ -134,21 +140,21 @@ static bool kvm_pgtable_walk_continue(const struct kvm_pgtable_walker *walker, * update a PTE. In the context of a fault handler this is interpreted * as a signal to retry guest execution. * * Ignore the return code altogether for walkers outside a fault handler * (e.g. write protecting a range of memory) and chug along with the * page table walk. */ if (r == -EAGAIN) return walker->flags & KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_IGNORE_EAGAIN; - return !r; + return r >= 0; } static int __kvm_pgtable_walk(struct kvm_pgtable_walk_data *data, struct kvm_pgtable_mm_ops *mm_ops, kvm_pteref_t pgtable, s8 level); static inline int __kvm_pgtable_visit(struct kvm_pgtable_walk_data *data, struct kvm_pgtable_mm_ops *mm_ops, kvm_pteref_t pteref, s8 level) { enum kvm_pgtable_walk_flags flags = data->walker->flags; @@ -185,23 +191,29 @@ static inline int __kvm_pgtable_visit(struct kvm_pgtable_walk_data *data, * into a newly installed or replaced table. */ if (reload) { ctx.old = READ_ONCE(*ptep); table = kvm_pte_table(ctx.old, level); } if (!kvm_pgtable_walk_continue(data->walker, ret)) goto out; - if (!table) { - data->addr = ALIGN_DOWN(data->addr, kvm_granule_size(level)); - data->addr += kvm_granule_size(level); + if (!table || ret >= SKIP_CHILDREN) { + u64 size; + + if (ret == SKIP_SIBLINGS) /* Skip siblings */ + size = kvm_granule_size(level - 1); + else /* Skip children */ + size = kvm_granule_size(level); + + data->addr = ALIGN_DOWN(data->addr, size) + size; goto out; } childp = (kvm_pteref_t)kvm_pte_follow(ctx.old, mm_ops); ret = __kvm_pgtable_walk(data, mm_ops, childp, level + 1); if (!kvm_pgtable_walk_continue(data->walker, ret)) goto out; if (ctx.flags & KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_TABLE_POST) ret = kvm_pgtable_visitor_cb(data, &ctx, KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_TABLE_POST); -- 2.54.0 ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] KVM: arm64: Introduce S2 walker SKIP return options 2026-05-15 19:59 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] KVM: arm64: Introduce S2 walker SKIP return options Leonardo Bras @ 2026-05-18 7:22 ` Oliver Upton 2026-05-18 8:52 ` Will Deacon 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Oliver Upton @ 2026-05-18 7:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Leonardo Bras Cc: Marc Zyngier, Joey Gouly, Suzuki K Poulose, Zenghui Yu, Catalin Marinas, Will Deacon, Fuad Tabba, Raghavendra Rao Ananta, linux-arm-kernel, kvmarm, linux-kernel Hi Leo, Thanks for having a look at this. On Fri, May 15, 2026 at 08:59:02PM +0100, Leonardo Bras wrote: > Introduce S2 walker return values: > - SKIP_CHILDREN: skip walking the children of the current node > - SKIP_SIBLINGS: skip waling the siblings of the current node > > Also, modify __kvm_pgtable_visit() to fulfil the hing on above return > values. Current walkers should not be impacted I'd rather see something based around new walk flags than introducing an entirely new mechanic around return values. e.g. you could split the LEAF flag into separate flags for blocks v. pages: KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_PAGE, KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_BLOCK, KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_LEAF = KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_PAGE | KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_BLOCK, and then let __kvm_pgtable_visit() decide how to steer the walk. You may need some special handling to get the address arithmetic right when skipping over a table of page descriptors. Thanks, Oliver ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] KVM: arm64: Introduce S2 walker SKIP return options 2026-05-18 7:22 ` Oliver Upton @ 2026-05-18 8:52 ` Will Deacon 2026-05-18 13:45 ` Leonardo Bras 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Will Deacon @ 2026-05-18 8:52 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Oliver Upton Cc: Leonardo Bras, Marc Zyngier, Joey Gouly, Suzuki K Poulose, Zenghui Yu, Catalin Marinas, Fuad Tabba, Raghavendra Rao Ananta, linux-arm-kernel, kvmarm, linux-kernel On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 12:22:47AM -0700, Oliver Upton wrote: > On Fri, May 15, 2026 at 08:59:02PM +0100, Leonardo Bras wrote: > > Introduce S2 walker return values: > > - SKIP_CHILDREN: skip walking the children of the current node > > - SKIP_SIBLINGS: skip waling the siblings of the current node > > > > Also, modify __kvm_pgtable_visit() to fulfil the hing on above return > > values. Current walkers should not be impacted > > I'd rather see something based around new walk flags than introducing an > entirely new mechanic around return values. > > e.g. you could split the LEAF flag into separate flags for blocks v. > pages: > > KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_PAGE, > KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_BLOCK, > KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_LEAF = KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_PAGE | > KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_BLOCK, > > and then let __kvm_pgtable_visit() decide how to steer the walk. You may > need some special handling to get the address arithmetic right when > skipping over a table of page descriptors. I was wondering along similar lines, but maybe it would be useful just to pass a maximum level to the walker logic? That feels like the most general case without complicating the existing logic. Will ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] KVM: arm64: Introduce S2 walker SKIP return options 2026-05-18 8:52 ` Will Deacon @ 2026-05-18 13:45 ` Leonardo Bras 2026-05-19 12:43 ` Will Deacon 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Leonardo Bras @ 2026-05-18 13:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Will Deacon Cc: Leonardo Bras, Oliver Upton, Marc Zyngier, Joey Gouly, Suzuki K Poulose, Zenghui Yu, Catalin Marinas, Fuad Tabba, Raghavendra Rao Ananta, linux-arm-kernel, kvmarm, linux-kernel Hello Oliver, Will, Thanks for reviewing! On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 09:52:16AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 12:22:47AM -0700, Oliver Upton wrote: > > On Fri, May 15, 2026 at 08:59:02PM +0100, Leonardo Bras wrote: > > > Introduce S2 walker return values: > > > - SKIP_CHILDREN: skip walking the children of the current node > > > - SKIP_SIBLINGS: skip waling the siblings of the current node > > > > > > Also, modify __kvm_pgtable_visit() to fulfil the hing on above return > > > values. Current walkers should not be impacted > > > > I'd rather see something based around new walk flags than introducing an > > entirely new mechanic around return values. > > > > e.g. you could split the LEAF flag into separate flags for blocks v. > > pages: > > > > KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_PAGE, > > KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_BLOCK, > > KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_LEAF = KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_PAGE | > > KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_BLOCK, > > > > and then let __kvm_pgtable_visit() decide how to steer the walk. You may > > need some special handling to get the address arithmetic right when > > skipping over a table of page descriptors. I am probably not getting the whole inner workings of this solution, but IIUC the idea would be to walk the blocks, but not the pages, right? Blocks meaning level2- and pages being level3? > I was wondering along similar lines, but maybe it would be useful just > to pass a maximum level to the walker logic? That feels like the most > general case without complicating the existing logic. This proposal seems simpler for me to understand, and indeed looks like a better solution than what I have proposed, taking care of the 'already split' case with better performance, as it don't even walk a single level-3 entry. On the 'splitting' case, it also works flawlessly if the memory is given in level-2 blocks. There is only one case that I would like to address here: - Memory given in level-1 blocks (say 1GB) - Walker flag says 'walk down to level-2 only' - Split Walker on level-1 will break page down to (up to) level-3 entries. - Walker will continue to be called on level-2 entries, even though it's not necessary. To solve this, I would like to suggest a new flag, that skips a table that has just been created. This could be easily implemented in __kvm_page_visit() on top of the max level flags suggested. enum kvm_pgtable_walk_flags { [...] KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_SKIP_LEVEL3 = BIT(7), KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_SKIP_LEVEL2 = BIT(8), KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_SKIP_LEVEL1 = BIT(9), KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_SKIP_NEW_TABLE = BIT(10), }; How does that sound? Thanks! Leo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] KVM: arm64: Introduce S2 walker SKIP return options 2026-05-18 13:45 ` Leonardo Bras @ 2026-05-19 12:43 ` Will Deacon 2026-05-19 12:56 ` Leonardo Bras 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Will Deacon @ 2026-05-19 12:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Leonardo Bras Cc: Oliver Upton, Marc Zyngier, Joey Gouly, Suzuki K Poulose, Zenghui Yu, Catalin Marinas, Fuad Tabba, Raghavendra Rao Ananta, linux-arm-kernel, kvmarm, linux-kernel On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 02:45:59PM +0100, Leonardo Bras wrote: > Hello Oliver, Will, > Thanks for reviewing! > > On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 09:52:16AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > > On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 12:22:47AM -0700, Oliver Upton wrote: > > > On Fri, May 15, 2026 at 08:59:02PM +0100, Leonardo Bras wrote: > > > > Introduce S2 walker return values: > > > > - SKIP_CHILDREN: skip walking the children of the current node > > > > - SKIP_SIBLINGS: skip waling the siblings of the current node > > > > > > > > Also, modify __kvm_pgtable_visit() to fulfil the hing on above return > > > > values. Current walkers should not be impacted > > > > > > I'd rather see something based around new walk flags than introducing an > > > entirely new mechanic around return values. > > > > > > e.g. you could split the LEAF flag into separate flags for blocks v. > > > pages: > > > > > > KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_PAGE, > > > KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_BLOCK, > > > KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_LEAF = KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_PAGE | > > > KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_BLOCK, > > > > > > and then let __kvm_pgtable_visit() decide how to steer the walk. You may > > > need some special handling to get the address arithmetic right when > > > skipping over a table of page descriptors. > > I am probably not getting the whole inner workings of this solution, but > IIUC the idea would be to walk the blocks, but not the pages, right? > > Blocks meaning level2- and pages being level3? > > > I was wondering along similar lines, but maybe it would be useful just > > to pass a maximum level to the walker logic? That feels like the most > > general case without complicating the existing logic. > > This proposal seems simpler for me to understand, and indeed looks like a > better solution than what I have proposed, taking care of the > 'already split' case with better performance, as it don't even walk a > single level-3 entry. > > On the 'splitting' case, it also works flawlessly if the memory is given in > level-2 blocks. There is only one case that I would like to address here: > > - Memory given in level-1 blocks (say 1GB) > - Walker flag says 'walk down to level-2 only' > - Split Walker on level-1 will break page down to (up to) level-3 entries. > - Walker will continue to be called on level-2 entries, even though it's > not necessary. If you're only visiting leaves, why would it be called on the level-2 table entries? Will ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] KVM: arm64: Introduce S2 walker SKIP return options 2026-05-19 12:43 ` Will Deacon @ 2026-05-19 12:56 ` Leonardo Bras 2026-05-19 13:15 ` Will Deacon 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Leonardo Bras @ 2026-05-19 12:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Will Deacon Cc: Leonardo Bras, Oliver Upton, Marc Zyngier, Joey Gouly, Suzuki K Poulose, Zenghui Yu, Catalin Marinas, Fuad Tabba, Raghavendra Rao Ananta, linux-arm-kernel, kvmarm, linux-kernel On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 01:43:37PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 02:45:59PM +0100, Leonardo Bras wrote: > > Hello Oliver, Will, > > Thanks for reviewing! > > > > On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 09:52:16AM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > > > On Mon, May 18, 2026 at 12:22:47AM -0700, Oliver Upton wrote: > > > > On Fri, May 15, 2026 at 08:59:02PM +0100, Leonardo Bras wrote: > > > > > Introduce S2 walker return values: > > > > > - SKIP_CHILDREN: skip walking the children of the current node > > > > > - SKIP_SIBLINGS: skip waling the siblings of the current node > > > > > > > > > > Also, modify __kvm_pgtable_visit() to fulfil the hing on above return > > > > > values. Current walkers should not be impacted > > > > > > > > I'd rather see something based around new walk flags than introducing an > > > > entirely new mechanic around return values. > > > > > > > > e.g. you could split the LEAF flag into separate flags for blocks v. > > > > pages: > > > > > > > > KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_PAGE, > > > > KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_BLOCK, > > > > KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_LEAF = KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_PAGE | > > > > KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_BLOCK, > > > > > > > > and then let __kvm_pgtable_visit() decide how to steer the walk. You may > > > > need some special handling to get the address arithmetic right when > > > > skipping over a table of page descriptors. > > > > I am probably not getting the whole inner workings of this solution, but > > IIUC the idea would be to walk the blocks, but not the pages, right? > > > > Blocks meaning level2- and pages being level3? > > > > > I was wondering along similar lines, but maybe it would be useful just > > > to pass a maximum level to the walker logic? That feels like the most > > > general case without complicating the existing logic. > > > > This proposal seems simpler for me to understand, and indeed looks like a > > better solution than what I have proposed, taking care of the > > 'already split' case with better performance, as it don't even walk a > > single level-3 entry. > > > > On the 'splitting' case, it also works flawlessly if the memory is given in > > level-2 blocks. There is only one case that I would like to address here: > > > > - Memory given in level-1 blocks (say 1GB) > > - Walker flag says 'walk down to level-2 only' > > - Split Walker on level-1 will break page down to (up to) level-3 entries. > > - Walker will continue to be called on level-2 entries, even though it's > > not necessary. > > If you're only visiting leaves, why would it be called on the level-2 > table entries? > Because once the leaf is turned into a table by the splitting walker, it gets reloaded and walked. This is an excerpt of __kvm_pgtable_visit(): --- if (!table && (ctx.flags & KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_LEAF)) { ret = kvm_pgtable_visitor_cb(data, &ctx, KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_LEAF); reload = true; } /* * Reload the page table after invoking the walker callback for leaf * entries or after pre-order traversal, to allow the walker to descend * into a newly installed or replaced table. */ if (reload) { ctx.old = READ_ONCE(*ptep); table = kvm_pte_table(ctx.old, level); } if (!kvm_pgtable_walk_continue(data->walker, ret)) goto out; if (!table) { data->addr = ALIGN_DOWN(data->addr, kvm_granule_size(level)); data->addr += kvm_granule_size(level); goto out; } childp = (kvm_pteref_t)kvm_pte_follow(ctx.old, mm_ops); ret = __kvm_pgtable_walk(data, mm_ops, childp, level + 1); if (!kvm_pgtable_walk_continue(data->walker, ret)) goto out; --- After the leaf is visited, it makes reload=true, which causes the newly created table to be detected as such and waked down. It means even the page that just got split will be walked down to the specified level. Example: - Split this level-1 leave: - Walker creates the whole structure up to given level (currently 3) - Walker returns, gets reloaded, table detected, go down on that one - Level 2 entries walked (which is unnecessary) Please let me know if I am misunderstanding something. Thanks! Leo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] KVM: arm64: Introduce S2 walker SKIP return options 2026-05-19 12:56 ` Leonardo Bras @ 2026-05-19 13:15 ` Will Deacon 2026-05-19 14:35 ` Leonardo Bras 0 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Will Deacon @ 2026-05-19 13:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Leonardo Bras Cc: Oliver Upton, Marc Zyngier, Joey Gouly, Suzuki K Poulose, Zenghui Yu, Catalin Marinas, Fuad Tabba, Raghavendra Rao Ananta, linux-arm-kernel, kvmarm, linux-kernel On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 01:56:48PM +0100, Leonardo Bras wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 01:43:37PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > > > > I was wondering along similar lines, but maybe it would be useful just > > > > to pass a maximum level to the walker logic? That feels like the most > > > > general case without complicating the existing logic. > > > > > > This proposal seems simpler for me to understand, and indeed looks like a > > > better solution than what I have proposed, taking care of the > > > 'already split' case with better performance, as it don't even walk a > > > single level-3 entry. > > > > > > On the 'splitting' case, it also works flawlessly if the memory is given in > > > level-2 blocks. There is only one case that I would like to address here: > > > > > > - Memory given in level-1 blocks (say 1GB) > > > - Walker flag says 'walk down to level-2 only' > > > - Split Walker on level-1 will break page down to (up to) level-3 entries. > > > - Walker will continue to be called on level-2 entries, even though it's > > > not necessary. > > > > If you're only visiting leaves, why would it be called on the level-2 > > table entries? > > > > Because once the leaf is turned into a table by the splitting walker, it > gets reloaded and walked. This is an excerpt of __kvm_pgtable_visit(): Sorry, I was musing about the semantics after adding something to limit the maximum level. I don't dispute what the current code would do. > Example: > - Split this level-1 leave: > - Walker creates the whole structure up to given level (currently 3) > - Walker returns, gets reloaded, table detected, go down on that one > - Level 2 entries walked (which is unnecessary) > > Please let me know if I am misunderstanding something. I just don't grok why this would happen if we limited the maximum level to '2' _and_ said we only wanted to visit the leaf entries. In that case, I wouldn't expect to descend into any of the L2 table entries (because that would imply going beyond level 2) and I wouldn't expect to be called for the table entries either (because we're only interested in leaves). Will ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC PATCH 1/2] KVM: arm64: Introduce S2 walker SKIP return options 2026-05-19 13:15 ` Will Deacon @ 2026-05-19 14:35 ` Leonardo Bras 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Leonardo Bras @ 2026-05-19 14:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Will Deacon Cc: Leonardo Bras, Oliver Upton, Marc Zyngier, Joey Gouly, Suzuki K Poulose, Zenghui Yu, Catalin Marinas, Fuad Tabba, Raghavendra Rao Ananta, linux-arm-kernel, kvmarm, linux-kernel On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 02:15:41PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 01:56:48PM +0100, Leonardo Bras wrote: > > On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 01:43:37PM +0100, Will Deacon wrote: > > > > > I was wondering along similar lines, but maybe it would be useful just > > > > > to pass a maximum level to the walker logic? That feels like the most > > > > > general case without complicating the existing logic. > > > > > > > > This proposal seems simpler for me to understand, and indeed looks like a > > > > better solution than what I have proposed, taking care of the > > > > 'already split' case with better performance, as it don't even walk a > > > > single level-3 entry. > > > > > > > > On the 'splitting' case, it also works flawlessly if the memory is given in > > > > level-2 blocks. There is only one case that I would like to address here: > > > > > > > > - Memory given in level-1 blocks (say 1GB) > > > > - Walker flag says 'walk down to level-2 only' > > > > - Split Walker on level-1 will break page down to (up to) level-3 entries. > > > > - Walker will continue to be called on level-2 entries, even though it's > > > > not necessary. > > > > > > If you're only visiting leaves, why would it be called on the level-2 > > > table entries? > > > > > > > Because once the leaf is turned into a table by the splitting walker, it > > gets reloaded and walked. This is an excerpt of __kvm_pgtable_visit(): > > Sorry, I was musing about the semantics after adding something to limit > the maximum level. I don't dispute what the current code would do. > > > Example: > > - Split this level-1 leave: > > - Walker creates the whole structure up to given level (currently 3) > > - Walker returns, gets reloaded, table detected, go down on that one > > - Level 2 entries walked (which is unnecessary) > > > > Please let me know if I am misunderstanding something. > > I just don't grok why this would happen if we limited the maximum level > to '2' _and_ said we only wanted to visit the leaf entries. In that > case, I wouldn't expect to descend into any of the L2 table entries > (because that would imply going beyond level 2) and I wouldn't expect to > be called for the table entries either (because we're only interested in > leaves). Agree, if we specify to skip level-3 entries, it would only walk up to level-2 entries, but take above example in detail: - Split these level-1 leaves, up to level-3 leaves (regular) - INFO: kvm_pgtable_walk will call walker: - only up to level-2 entries (skip level-3) - only on leaf entries - Walk first level-1 leaf, calls walker - walker will split the level-1 leaf in level-3 leaves - walker return from that first level-1 leaf - level-1 leaf is reloaded as a table - level-2 entries of that table are also walked (unnecessary) - on each of the level-2 table entries, level-3 entries are skipped To avoid the unecessary walk of the level-2 entries above, we would need to specify 'skip level-2' that could be an issue if we have a mix of level-1 and level-2 leaves, as the level-2 leaves in that case would not be split. That's why I suggest something like "skip recently created table" as a flag as well, so we can guarantee no newly created table gets walked unecessarily. Please help me if I am missing something important. Thanks! Leo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* [RFC PATCH 2/2] KVM: arm64: Improve splitting performance by using SKIP return values 2026-05-15 19:59 [RFC PATCH 0/2] Optimize S2 page splitting Leonardo Bras 2026-05-15 19:59 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] KVM: arm64: Introduce S2 walker SKIP return options Leonardo Bras @ 2026-05-15 19:59 ` Leonardo Bras 2026-05-16 9:15 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Optimize S2 page splitting Marc Zyngier 2 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Leonardo Bras @ 2026-05-15 19:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Marc Zyngier, Oliver Upton, Joey Gouly, Suzuki K Poulose, Zenghui Yu, Catalin Marinas, Will Deacon, Fuad Tabba, Leonardo Bras, Raghavendra Rao Ananta Cc: linux-arm-kernel, kvmarm, linux-kernel Splitting an S2 pagetable is needed when using dirty-bit tracking. Currently, when splitting, all the child and sibling nodes will be walked, with the walker just returning earlier if there is nothing to do. This means all pagetable entries in the splitting range get a callback from the walker function, even if it was just split, or it's a level-3 entry. Optimize splitting in two cases: - If a level-3 entry is walked, it means the parent level-2 entry is split, so avoid walking all level-3 siblings. - If a split just succeeded in an table entry, it means all children nodes are already split, so skip walking this entry's children. Optimization measured on a 1GB VM, running on the model, splitting all at the beginning (no manual protect): - Memory was already split (4k pages): -97.33% runtime (-172ms) - 20 runs - THP backed memory: -19.82% runtime (-153ms) - 10 runs - 1x1GB hugetlb memory: -20.65% runtime (-150ms) - 10 runs (Above runtime is measured on kvm_mmu_split_huge_pages(), using ktime_get_real_ns() before and after function call) Signed-off-by: Leonardo Bras <leo.bras@arm.com> --- arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/pgtable.c | 12 +++++++++--- 1 file changed, 9 insertions(+), 3 deletions(-) diff --git a/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/pgtable.c b/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/pgtable.c index 4e43339522bb..164c5bcd6026 100644 --- a/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/pgtable.c +++ b/arch/arm64/kvm/hyp/pgtable.c @@ -1502,23 +1502,27 @@ static int stage2_split_walker(const struct kvm_pgtable_visit_ctx *ctx, struct kvm_pgtable_mm_ops *mm_ops = ctx->mm_ops; struct kvm_mmu_memory_cache *mc = ctx->arg; struct kvm_s2_mmu *mmu; kvm_pte_t pte = ctx->old, new, *childp; enum kvm_pgtable_prot prot; s8 level = ctx->level; bool force_pte; int nr_pages; u64 phys; - /* No huge-pages exist at the last level */ + /* + * No huge-pages exist at the last level + * Also, if one PTE exist in the last level, the whole block is already + * split, so skip walking it's siblings. + */ if (level == KVM_PGTABLE_LAST_LEVEL) - return 0; + return SKIP_SIBLINGS; /* We only split valid block mappings */ if (!kvm_pte_valid(pte)) return 0; nr_pages = stage2_block_get_nr_page_tables(level); if (nr_pages < 0) return nr_pages; if (mc->nobjs >= nr_pages) { @@ -1554,21 +1558,23 @@ static int stage2_split_walker(const struct kvm_pgtable_visit_ctx *ctx, return -EAGAIN; } /* * Note, the contents of the page table are guaranteed to be made * visible before the new PTE is assigned because stage2_make_pte() * writes the PTE using smp_store_release(). */ new = kvm_init_table_pte(childp, mm_ops); stage2_make_pte(ctx, new); - return 0; + + /* All child entries are already split, so skip walking them */ + return SKIP_CHILDREN; } int kvm_pgtable_stage2_split(struct kvm_pgtable *pgt, u64 addr, u64 size, struct kvm_mmu_memory_cache *mc) { struct kvm_pgtable_walker walker = { .cb = stage2_split_walker, .flags = KVM_PGTABLE_WALK_LEAF, .arg = mc, }; -- 2.54.0 ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] Optimize S2 page splitting 2026-05-15 19:59 [RFC PATCH 0/2] Optimize S2 page splitting Leonardo Bras 2026-05-15 19:59 ` [RFC PATCH 1/2] KVM: arm64: Introduce S2 walker SKIP return options Leonardo Bras 2026-05-15 19:59 ` [RFC PATCH 2/2] KVM: arm64: Improve splitting performance by using SKIP return values Leonardo Bras @ 2026-05-16 9:15 ` Marc Zyngier 2026-05-18 14:09 ` Leonardo Bras 2 siblings, 1 reply; 12+ messages in thread From: Marc Zyngier @ 2026-05-16 9:15 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Leonardo Bras Cc: Oliver Upton, Joey Gouly, Suzuki K Poulose, Zenghui Yu, Catalin Marinas, Will Deacon, Fuad Tabba, Raghavendra Rao Ananta, linux-arm-kernel, kvmarm, linux-kernel On Fri, 15 May 2026 20:59:01 +0100, Leonardo Bras <leo.bras@arm.com> wrote: > > While playing with dirty-bit tracking, I decided to take a look on how page > splitting works. Found out all entries are walked, even though we can infer, > for instance that: > - If a level-3 entry is walked, it means the parent level-2 entry is split > - If a split just succeeded in an table entry, it means all children nodes > are already split > > So I tried to optimize it in a way that it does not break other users. > > My main idea is to introduce positive return values that hint to the > pagetable walking mechanism that either siblings or children can be > skipped. That should be contained to the visitor function, that returns > zero if no error was detected. > > Numbers on above optimization are promising: > A 1GB VM, running on the model, splitting all at the beginning > (no manual protect): > - Memory was already split (4k pages): -97.33% runtime (-172ms) - 20 runs > - THP backed memory: -19.82% runtime (-153ms) - 10 runs > - 1x1GB hugetlb memory: -20.65% runtime (-150ms) - 10 runs > I haven't looked at the changes in details, but the methodology is quite flawed. For a start, measuring anything on a software model (QEMU or FVP) doesn't mean anything performance-wise. The trade-offs are completely different from a HW implementation, and even the notion of time is pretty inconsistent. Please run this on actual HW. I'm sure your employer can give you access to one of these mythical arm64 toys. Measure things from userspace, not from the kernel, so that you have all the overheads. Don't add console output, because that will make things far worse. I'm sure you can hack one of the selftests for this purpose. Thanks, M. -- Jazz isn't dead. It just smells funny. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
* Re: [RFC PATCH 0/2] Optimize S2 page splitting 2026-05-16 9:15 ` [RFC PATCH 0/2] Optimize S2 page splitting Marc Zyngier @ 2026-05-18 14:09 ` Leonardo Bras 0 siblings, 0 replies; 12+ messages in thread From: Leonardo Bras @ 2026-05-18 14:09 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Marc Zyngier Cc: Leonardo Bras, Oliver Upton, Joey Gouly, Suzuki K Poulose, Zenghui Yu, Catalin Marinas, Will Deacon, Fuad Tabba, Raghavendra Rao Ananta, linux-arm-kernel, kvmarm, linux-kernel On Sat, May 16, 2026 at 10:15:36AM +0100, Marc Zyngier wrote: > On Fri, 15 May 2026 20:59:01 +0100, > Leonardo Bras <leo.bras@arm.com> wrote: > > > > While playing with dirty-bit tracking, I decided to take a look on how page > > splitting works. Found out all entries are walked, even though we can infer, > > for instance that: > > - If a level-3 entry is walked, it means the parent level-2 entry is split > > - If a split just succeeded in an table entry, it means all children nodes > > are already split > > > > So I tried to optimize it in a way that it does not break other users. > > > > My main idea is to introduce positive return values that hint to the > > pagetable walking mechanism that either siblings or children can be > > skipped. That should be contained to the visitor function, that returns > > zero if no error was detected. > > > > Numbers on above optimization are promising: > > A 1GB VM, running on the model, splitting all at the beginning > > (no manual protect): > > - Memory was already split (4k pages): -97.33% runtime (-172ms) - 20 runs > > - THP backed memory: -19.82% runtime (-153ms) - 10 runs > > - 1x1GB hugetlb memory: -20.65% runtime (-150ms) - 10 runs > > > > I haven't looked at the changes in details, but the methodology is > quite flawed. For a start, measuring anything on a software model > (QEMU or FVP) doesn't mean anything performance-wise. The trade-offs > are completely different from a HW implementation, and even the notion > of time is pretty inconsistent. > > Please run this on actual HW. I'm sure your employer can give you > access to one of these mythical arm64 toys. Ok, will use real hardware next. > Measure things from > userspace, not from the kernel, so that you have all the overheads. > Don't add console output, because that will make things far worse. > > I'm sure you can hack one of the selftests for this purpose. I think the dirty_log_perf_test should have an config I can use for that without introducing any change. Thanks! Leo ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 12+ messages in thread
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