From: tglx@linutronix.de (Thomas Gleixner)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH RFC] clk: add support for automatic parent handling
Date: Fri, 22 Apr 2011 11:51:37 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1104221124270.3323@ionos> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <BANLkTikU9RLy9VR+tOPMt0u6zJp-bW5_Cw@mail.gmail.com>
On Thu, 21 Apr 2011, Colin Cross wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de> wrote:
> > There is no way around that. Everything else is going to be the
> > locking hell and racy all over the place.
>
> Per clock locks are useful if you have some very slow clocks and some
> very fast clocks. PLLs may take 20 ms to lock, and preventing any
> other call to clk_prepare for that long could be problematic. The
> problem was worse before the clk_enable/clk_prepare split, maybe it's
> not necessary at all any more.
>
> For Tegra, I solved my clock locking problems by (almost) always
> locking from child to parent, the normal case for
> clk_enable/clk_prepare. In general, you only need to lock parent and
> then child if you store the rate of the child in the child's clk
> struct and need to update it when the parent changes, or when
> traversing the tree for debugging output. I solved the first problem
> by storing the relation between the child and the parent in the child
> struct and locking from child to parent on clk_get_rate calls to
> calculate the rate, and the second by using a trylock loop over the
> list of clocks (see arch/arm/mach-tegra/clock.c).
Yes, and that's exaclty what we don't want to have. You still need a
global lock for doing the full tree acquisition and the only advantage
which is left is that you can do parallel prepare/unprepare and
everything else (parent settings, rate propagations) will need to do
the locking dance.
And the bad thing about your approach is that it requires a full tree
lock acquisition all the time, while the real operation might be just
affecting 3 clocks out of 50. To avoid that you'd need to do the
trylock dance over the child list.
I doubt it's worth the trouble, really.
> Now that clk_prepare and clk_enable are split, the long-held locks
> (for plls, maybe dvfs?) are separated from the short-held locks for
> clk_enable/clk_disable, and the cost of global serialization is much
> more acceptable.
Right. And that's how we start. Simple. If it turns out to be a real
issue, then we can revisit the fine grained locking approach, but I
really want to avoid it as far as possible.
Another thing I'm pondering is to provide the ability to maintain
separate clk trees. So you can have individual domains which have
their per clk tree locking. Would that make sense ?
Thanks,
tglx
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-04-22 9:51 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 157+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-04-15 19:08 [RFC] sanitizing crazy clock data files Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 01/10] Add a common struct clk Sascha Hauer
2011-04-21 19:48 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-22 0:28 ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-22 9:23 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-23 14:08 ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-23 15:30 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-24 2:54 ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-24 7:20 ` Linus Walleij
2011-04-24 9:55 ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-22 4:57 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-22 9:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 10:09 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 10:45 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 10:58 ` Tony Lindgren
2011-04-29 11:01 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-30 18:30 ` Pavel Machek
2011-04-30 8:06 ` Linus Walleij
2011-04-30 9:01 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-30 16:30 ` Linus Walleij
2011-05-01 20:33 ` Rob Herring
2011-05-02 1:09 ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-05-02 3:09 ` Rob Herring
2011-05-02 3:40 ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-05-02 16:30 ` Rob Herring
2011-05-02 22:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-03 0:22 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-05-04 6:40 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-05-04 18:33 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-05-04 23:35 ` Paul Walmsley
2011-05-10 20:06 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-05-02 16:55 ` David Brown
2011-05-02 17:31 ` Stephen Boyd
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 02/10] clk: Generic support for fixed-rate clocks Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 03/10] clk: Make NULL a valid clock again Sascha Hauer
2011-04-19 0:53 ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-04-19 6:25 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-20 12:53 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 04/10] clk: implement parent pass through functions Sascha Hauer
2011-04-18 9:25 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-18 9:48 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-19 17:20 ` Stephen Boyd
2011-04-19 17:53 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-19 19:09 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-19 20:58 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-19 21:54 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-20 7:16 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-20 8:34 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-20 14:07 ` [PATCH RFC] clk: add support for automatic parent handling Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-20 16:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-20 18:59 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-20 19:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21 6:58 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-21 10:33 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21 19:22 ` torbenh
2011-04-23 23:26 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-21 7:22 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-21 9:12 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21 10:31 ` Mark Brown
2011-04-21 11:42 ` Tony Lindgren
2011-04-21 14:52 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-22 7:09 ` Tony Lindgren
2011-04-22 8:22 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21 14:29 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 10:37 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 11:01 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 11:06 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 12:13 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 13:26 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 15:31 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 22:07 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 22:16 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 22:19 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 22:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-30 14:27 ` torbenh
2011-05-03 6:35 ` Colin Cross
2011-05-05 8:35 ` torbenh
2011-05-03 2:44 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-05-03 2:46 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-21 10:13 ` Mark Brown
2011-04-21 11:39 ` Tony Lindgren
2011-04-21 7:42 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-21 9:21 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21 11:50 ` Mark Brown
2011-04-21 12:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21 12:35 ` Mark Brown
2011-04-25 2:03 ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-25 10:57 ` Mark Brown
2011-04-25 14:41 ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-25 14:44 ` Mark Brown
2011-04-29 10:49 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 11:11 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 11:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 12:19 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 13:27 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 15:47 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-21 12:06 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-21 15:38 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-22 0:23 ` Colin Cross
2011-04-22 9:51 ` Thomas Gleixner [this message]
2011-04-22 16:14 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-22 16:39 ` Colin Cross
2011-04-22 16:57 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-22 22:26 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-22 22:55 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-23 0:48 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-23 23:34 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2011-04-22 4:54 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-22 9:06 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 10:30 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-29 10:51 ` Thomas Gleixner
2011-04-29 10:56 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-24 9:45 ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-24 20:14 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-29 10:20 ` [PATCH 04/10] clk: implement parent pass through functions Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 05/10] clk: Add support for simple dividers Sascha Hauer
2011-04-18 9:49 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-18 10:07 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-19 2:45 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-19 7:32 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-19 8:55 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-19 9:31 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-19 22:28 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-20 6:36 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-20 21:45 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-04-21 7:39 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-28 15:14 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-03 3:37 ` Saravana Kannan
2011-05-03 7:12 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-28 15:22 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-05-02 7:58 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-18 22:40 ` Stephen Boyd
2011-04-19 0:32 ` Jeremy Kerr
2011-04-19 5:41 ` Stephen Boyd
2011-04-24 13:48 ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-25 18:51 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-26 1:54 ` Richard Zhao
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 06/10] clk: Add support for a generic clock multiplexer Sascha Hauer
2011-04-18 13:15 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-18 13:33 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-18 13:54 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-18 17:54 ` Stephen Boyd
2011-04-18 18:34 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-18 18:41 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-18 18:46 ` Stephen Boyd
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 07/10] ARM i.MX: Support for clock building blocks Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 08/10] ARM i.MX: Add generic support for pllv2 Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 09/10] ARM i.MX51/53: reimplement clock support Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 19:08 ` [PATCH 10/10] ARM i.MX51/53: remove old " Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 19:36 ` [RFC] sanitizing crazy clock data files Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-15 20:12 ` Sascha Hauer
2011-04-15 20:25 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-15 20:28 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-04-15 20:49 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-18 4:07 ` Shawn Guo
2011-04-15 20:45 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2011-04-18 7:42 ` Sascha Hauer
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