From: Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>,
linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>
Cc: linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@kernel.org>,
Kuldeep Singh <kuldeep.singh@oss.qualcomm.com>,
Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>,
Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] crypto: qce - Replace with stub driver
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2026 01:32:11 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <c1594714-5cc5-4370-bba3-9af886a9c8d7@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260731050838.158825-1-ebiggers@kernel.org>
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On 7/31/26 01:08, Eric Biggers wrote:
> None of the algorithms the QCE driver registers with the crypto API are
> even close to being useful. They're massively outperformed by the
> CPU-based crypto (even actually using far more CPU cycles than the
> CPU-based crypto, due to the massive driver overhead), don't provide any
> security benefits over the CPU-based crypto, and have various other
> issues. They're also unrelated to the Inline Crypto Engine which works
> far better and is what is actually being used these days.
>
> Due to the major performance problems people experienced when
> accidentally using this driver, the algorithms were already demoted to
> below the priority of ARMv8 CE in the crypto API several years ago.
> Regardless of priority, these algorithms also aren't compatible with the
> most common uses of in-kernel crypto; for example, they don't support
> dm-crypt because they allocate memory, and they don't support IPsec
> since they take a mutex which isn't compatible with softirq context.
>
> It's time to move on and just drop this obsolete functionality entirely.
>
> However, the driver does serve one purpose which is to bind to the
> devicetree node and allow the interconnects to scale down (though even
> that part is broken, as it holds static interconnect bandwidth votes).
>
> Thus, clear out the crypto functionality, leaving just a stub driver
> that drops the interconnection bandwidth votes to zero.
>
> Tested on the SM8650 HDK.
>
> Signed-off-by: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Some thoughts:
1. Should this be put under a different subdirectory? This
is now a power management driver, not a crypto driver.
IMO it should just fall under ARCH_QCOM, without a separate
Kconfig entry (or at least a "default y" one).
2. Should it be re-added to the defconfigs? Most distros
will want to turn it on, as it saves power and is minuscule.
3. Will this the smallest driver in the whole kernel?
> ---
> drivers/crypto/Kconfig | 117 +----
> drivers/crypto/qce/Makefile | 7 -
> drivers/crypto/qce/aead.c | 787 ----------------------------------
> drivers/crypto/qce/aead.h | 56 ---
> drivers/crypto/qce/cipher.h | 56 ---
> drivers/crypto/qce/common.c | 564 ------------------------
> drivers/crypto/qce/common.h | 94 ----
> drivers/crypto/qce/core.c | 271 ------------
> drivers/crypto/qce/core.h | 64 ---
> drivers/crypto/qce/dma.c | 135 ------
> drivers/crypto/qce/dma.h | 47 --
> drivers/crypto/qce/qcrypto.c | 43 ++
> drivers/crypto/qce/regs-v5.h | 322 --------------
> drivers/crypto/qce/sha.c | 498 ---------------------
> drivers/crypto/qce/sha.h | 71 ---
> drivers/crypto/qce/skcipher.c | 434 -------------------
> 16 files changed, 50 insertions(+), 3516 deletions(-)
> delete mode 100644 drivers/crypto/qce/aead.c
> delete mode 100644 drivers/crypto/qce/aead.h
> delete mode 100644 drivers/crypto/qce/cipher.h
> delete mode 100644 drivers/crypto/qce/common.c
> delete mode 100644 drivers/crypto/qce/common.h
> delete mode 100644 drivers/crypto/qce/core.c
> delete mode 100644 drivers/crypto/qce/core.h
> delete mode 100644 drivers/crypto/qce/dma.c
> delete mode 100644 drivers/crypto/qce/dma.h
> create mode 100644 drivers/crypto/qce/qcrypto.c
> delete mode 100644 drivers/crypto/qce/regs-v5.h
> delete mode 100644 drivers/crypto/qce/sha.c
> delete mode 100644 drivers/crypto/qce/sha.h
> delete mode 100644 drivers/crypto/qce/skcipher.c
>
> diff --git a/drivers/crypto/Kconfig b/drivers/crypto/Kconfig
> index 0189dfdcbbe1..03113ad3467c 100644
> --- a/drivers/crypto/Kconfig
> +++ b/drivers/crypto/Kconfig
> @@ -527,119 +527,16 @@ source "drivers/crypto/marvell/Kconfig"
> source "drivers/crypto/intel/Kconfig"
>
> config CRYPTO_DEV_QCE
> - tristate "Qualcomm crypto engine accelerator"
> - depends on (BROKEN && ARCH_QCOM) || COMPILE_TEST
> + tristate "Qualcomm crypto engine"
> + depends on ARCH_QCOM || COMPILE_TEST
> depends on HAS_IOMEM
> help
> - This driver supports Qualcomm crypto engine accelerator
> - hardware. To compile this driver as a module, choose M here. The
> - module will be called qcrypto.
> -
> - This driver does not have exclusive access to the
> - hardware, causing races with the secure world. It
> - is also slower than the CPU.
> + This driver provides a stub for the Qualcomm crypto engine. It exists
> + only to bind to the devicetree node and allow interconnects to scale
> + down, saving power. It doesn't expose any cryptographic functionality.
Should this mention why the cryptographic functionality
available in the hardware has been proven unsuitable for use?
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Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)
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[not found] <20260731050838.158825-1-ebiggers@kernel.org>
2026-07-31 5:32 ` Demi Marie Obenour [this message]
2026-07-31 7:42 ` [PATCH] crypto: qce - Replace with stub driver Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-31 9:06 ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-31 10:02 ` Eric Biggers
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