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From: Vladimir Murzin <vladimir.murzin@arm.com>
To: Ada Couprie Diaz <ada.coupriediaz@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Cc: Will Deacon <will@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>,
	Shanker Donthineni <sdonthineni@nvidia.com>,
	Vikram Sethi <vsethi@nvidia.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Andre Przywara <andre.przywara@arm.com>,
	Marc Zyngier <maz@kernel.org>, James Morse <james.morse@arm.com>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Lucas Wei <lucaswei@google.com>,
	Barry Song <baohua@kernel.org>, Oliver Upton <oupton@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] arm64: insn: remove deprecated memory barrier types
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2026 11:19:23 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <cf5ad22c-31b2-4076-8d69-3be4fc4c72e5@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a163f846-dbc3-4077-ab9c-a17d31656af2@arm.com>

Hi Ada,

On 10/7/26 18:05, Ada Couprie Diaz wrote:
> Hi Vladimir,
> 
> On 07/10/2026 07:21, Vladimir Murzin wrote:
>> Hi Ada,
>>
>> On 9/28/26 14:30, Ada Couprie Diaz wrote:
>>> Arm ARM DDI 0487 version M.c[0] deprecated a number of types
>>> used as options for the DMB and DSB instructions, with no change
>>> in behaviour.
>>> The deprecated types are not used in the kernel, so remove them
>>> from our instruction generation framework and add the missing
>>> `AARCH64_INSN_MB_OSH` case in `__get_barrier_crm_val()`.
>>>
>> Arm ARM says that OSH has the same behaviour as SY, so I'd assume
>> any user of OSH should be fine to upgrade to SY, no?
> 
> As you mention below, OSH is _technically_ not deprecated for DSB, so I think
> it would make sense to add it for completion.
> Though, given that it is indeed equivalent I can see the argument for leaving it.
> 

Ahh, missed that. I think if we go for inlining barrier encodings into 
aarch64_insn_gen_d{m,s}b() then we can keep OSH for completion.

> I initially wanted to silently convert deprecated encodings to SY and co.,
> Mark was against the idea but I guess it could be OK just not providing them.
> 
>>> This simplifies the switch-case and now covers all the enum types,
>>> which allows for making the DSB and DMB generation non instrumentable
>>> in a follow-up commit.
>>>
>>> [0]: https://support.arm.com/documentation/ddi0487/mc/
>>>       (See C6.2.150, C6.2.152)
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Ada Couprie Diaz <ada.coupriediaz@arm.com>
>>> ---
>>>   arch/arm64/include/asm/insn.h |  6 ------
>>>   arch/arm64/lib/insn.c         | 10 ++--------
>>>   2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 14 deletions(-)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/include/asm/insn.h b/arch/arm64/include/asm/insn.h
>>> index 1ce75a4426387..8ec9d86cc575c 100644
>>> --- a/arch/arm64/include/asm/insn.h
>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/include/asm/insn.h
>>> @@ -302,14 +302,8 @@ enum aarch64_insn_mb_type {
>>>       AARCH64_INSN_MB_ST,
>>>       AARCH64_INSN_MB_LD,
>>>       AARCH64_INSN_MB_ISH,
>>> -    AARCH64_INSN_MB_ISHST,
>>> -    AARCH64_INSN_MB_ISHLD,
>>>       AARCH64_INSN_MB_NSH,
>>> -    AARCH64_INSN_MB_NSHST,
>>> -    AARCH64_INSN_MB_NSHLD,
>>>       AARCH64_INSN_MB_OSH,
>>> -    AARCH64_INSN_MB_OSHST,
>>> -    AARCH64_INSN_MB_OSHLD,
>>>   };
>>>     #define    __AARCH64_INSN_FUNCS(abbr, mask, val)                \
>>> diff --git a/arch/arm64/lib/insn.c b/arch/arm64/lib/insn.c
>>> index e70ac02385153..c70820d65805f 100644
>>> --- a/arch/arm64/lib/insn.c
>>> +++ b/arch/arm64/lib/insn.c
>>> @@ -1572,16 +1572,10 @@ static u32 __get_barrier_crm_val(enum aarch64_insn_mb_type type)
>>>           return 0xd;
>>>       case AARCH64_INSN_MB_ISH:
>>>           return 0xb;
>>> -    case AARCH64_INSN_MB_ISHST:
>>> -        return 0xa;
>>> -    case AARCH64_INSN_MB_ISHLD:
>>> -        return 0x9;
>>>       case AARCH64_INSN_MB_NSH:
>>>           return 0x7;
>>> -    case AARCH64_INSN_MB_NSHST:
>>> -        return 0x6;
>>> -    case AARCH64_INSN_MB_NSHLD:
>>> -        return 0x5;
>>> +    case AARCH64_INSN_MB_OSH:
>>> +        return 0x3;
>>>       default:
>>>           pr_err("%s: unknown barrier type %d\n", __func__, type);
>>>           return AARCH64_BREAK_FAULT;
>>> -- 2.43.0
>>>
>> It looks like NSH, ISH and OSH applies to DSB and deprecated in case of DMB
>> which is slightly confusing. Given that we drop bunch of encodings perhaps we
>> can inline logic in aarch64_insn_gen_d{m,s}b()?
> 
> Yeah I can see an argument for that, I'm not against it and it probably makes
> the error handling in patch 2 a bit cleaner...
> 

Happy to take a look!

Thanks!

>> Cheers
>> Vladimir
> Thanks for the comments !
> Kind regards,
> Ada



  reply	other threads:[~2026-10-09 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-09-28 13:30 [PATCH 0/6] arm64: alternatives: switch most used alternatives to callbacks Ada Couprie Diaz
2026-09-28 13:30 ` [PATCH 1/6] arm64: insn: remove deprecated memory barrier types Ada Couprie Diaz
2026-10-07  6:21   ` Vladimir Murzin
2026-10-07 17:05     ` Ada Couprie Diaz
2026-10-09 10:19       ` Vladimir Murzin [this message]
2026-09-28 13:30 ` [PATCH 2/6] arm64: insn: make `aarch64_insn_gen_d{m,s}b()` alternative-safe Ada Couprie Diaz
2026-09-28 13:30 ` [PATCH 3/6] arm64: io: replace NVIDIA Olympus erratum alternative with callback Ada Couprie Diaz
2026-09-28 13:30 ` [PATCH 4/6] arm64: io: replace ARM erratum 832075 " Ada Couprie Diaz
2026-09-28 13:30 ` [PATCH 5/6] arm64: insn: operate on MSR/MRS sysreg field via defines Ada Couprie Diaz
2026-10-07  6:53   ` Vladimir Murzin
2026-10-07 16:31     ` Ada Couprie Diaz
2026-10-09  9:14       ` Vladimir Murzin
2026-09-28 13:30 ` [PATCH 6/6] arm64: use alternatie callback to patch TPIDR_EL1 accesses Ada Couprie Diaz
2026-10-06 16:28 ` [PATCH 0/6] arm64: alternatives: switch most used alternatives to callbacks Catalin Marinas
2026-10-06 17:30   ` Ada Couprie Diaz

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