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From: Zhentao Guo <zhentao.guo@amlogic.com>
To: Ferass El Hafidi <funderscore@postmarketos.org>,
	linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org,
	Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
	Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>,
	Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@baylibre.com>,
	Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com>,
	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-media@vger.kernel.org,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 0/6] Add Amlogic stateless H.264 video decoder for S4
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2026 10:43:33 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f00f7e3a-68b6-441a-af6f-ceccd2053080@amlogic.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <tiocog.2cefvi325on5y@postmarketos.org>

Hi Feras,

>
> Hi Zhentao,
>
> On Fri, 24 Jul 2026 07:04, Zhentao Guo via B4 Relay 
> <devnull+zhentao.guo.amlogic.com@kernel.org> wrote:
>> Introduce initial driver support for Amlogic's new video acceleration
>> hardware architecture, designed for video stream decoding.
>>
>> Compared to the current Amlogic video decoder hardware architecture,
>> this new implementation eliminates the Esparser hardware component,
>> enabling direct vb2 buffer input. The driver is designed to support
>> the V4L2 M2M stateless decoder API. The initial phase includes support
>> for H.264 decoding on Amlogic S805X2 platform.
>>
>> The driver needs to work alongside with a signed firmware. The 
>> loading process of
>> the signed fw is as follow.
>
> Is the firmware still signed on devices that do not have secure boot
> enabled? (which means none of their boot chain is signed)
> Do the signing checks take place in BL32 or elsewhere?

The firmware mentioned is not enabled in the chips without the secure 
boot . In other words, this policy is not effective for the legacy 
platform like SM1/G12.

Yes, the signing check process happens in BL32.

>
>> Stage1: Decypt and decompose the full firmware package when the 
>> driver is probed.
>>  +---------------------+ +---------------------+
>>  |  Decoder Driver     |                        |  TEE Shared Memory  |
>>  |  (Kernel Space)     | |                     |
>>  |  +---------------+  |                        | +---------------+  |
>>  |  | video_ucode   |  |                        |  | firmware      |  |
>>  |  |    .bin       |  |  Copy payload to SHM   |  | payload     |  |
>>  |  | (from fs)     |  | ---------------------> |  | (Secure RAM)  |  |
>>  |  +---------------+  |                        | +---------------+  |
>>  +---------------------+ +----------+----------+
>>                                                            |
>>                                                            | PTA 
>> Invocation
>>                                                            v
>> +-------------------------------+
>>                                       | BL32              |
>>                                       | +-------------------------+  |
>>                                       |  | Decrypt Firmware        |  |
>>                                       | +-----------+-------------+  |
>>                                       | |                |
>>                                       | v                |
>>                                       | +-------------------------+  |
>>                                       |  | Decompose the full      |  |
>>                                      |  | firmware pacakge        |  |
>>                                       | +-----------+-------------+  |
>>                                       | |                |
>>                                       | v                |
>>                                       | +-------------------------+  |
>>                                       |  | Store decomposed .bin   |  |
>>                                       |  | in Secure Memory        |  |
>>                                       | +-------------------------+  |
>> +-------------------------------+
>>
>
> Is BL32 strictly needed to load that firmware? I know on at least 
> older SoCs
> (sm1 and older) BL32 is not required for booting and amlogic-based 
> SBCs are
> often used without BL32. So once this gets ported to older SoCs, would
> it have a hard-dependency on BL32? And if yes, can upstream Arm Trusted
> Firmware-A BL32 be used instead of the Amlogic blob?

At least on S4 and newer SoC platforms, loading this firmware strictly 
requires the closed-source BL32 provided by Amlogic. If this solution is 
ported to older SoCs, it will also have a dependency on BL32.
The upstream Arm Trusted Firmware-A BL32 cannot be used either, as it 
lacks the capability to verify firmware signatures.
I understand your concerns, but this is primarily for the security of 
encrypted data. Amlogic SoCs do not have a dedicated CPU for processing 
encrypted data, both encrypted and clear data eventually converge on the 
AMRISC micro-core for processing (the firmware mentioned above is what 
drives this core). Therefore, we need to encrypt the firmware to prevent 
it from being reverse-engineered, which would otherwise lead to the risk 
of encrypted data leakage.
>
> Best regards,
> Ferass

Best regards,

Zhentao



  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-27  2:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-24  7:04 [PATCH v6 0/6] Add Amlogic stateless H.264 video decoder for S4 Zhentao Guo via B4 Relay
2026-07-24  7:04 ` [PATCH v6 1/6] firmware: meson: sm: Add video firmware loading SMC call Zhentao Guo via B4 Relay
2026-07-25  7:13   ` Piotr Oniszczuk
2026-07-27  2:57     ` Zhentao Guo
2026-07-24  7:04 ` [PATCH v6 2/6] firmware: meson: sm: video firmware loading via secure monitor Zhentao Guo via B4 Relay
2026-07-24 10:22   ` Ferass El Hafidi
2026-07-24  7:04 ` [PATCH v6 3/6] media: dt-bindings: Add Amlogic V4L2 video decoder Zhentao Guo via B4 Relay
2026-07-27  6:23   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-27  6:32     ` Zhentao Guo
2026-07-24  7:04 ` [PATCH v6 5/6] arm64: dts: amlogic: Add video decoder driver support for S4 SOCs Zhentao Guo via B4 Relay
2026-07-24  7:04 ` [PATCH v6 6/6] arm64: defconfig: Enable CONFIG_VIDEO_AMLOGIC_VDEC Zhentao Guo via B4 Relay
2026-07-27  6:24   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-27  6:26     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-27  6:36       ` Zhentao Guo
2026-07-27  7:02         ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-27  7:19           ` Zhentao Guo
2026-07-24 10:13 ` [PATCH v6 0/6] Add Amlogic stateless H.264 video decoder for S4 Ferass El Hafidi
2026-07-27  2:43   ` Zhentao Guo [this message]
     [not found] ` <20260724-b4-s4-vdec-upstream-v6-4-6072a7ee7428@amlogic.com>
2026-07-27  6:31   ` [PATCH v6 4/6] decoder: Add V4L2 stateless H.264 decoder driver Krzysztof Kozlowski
2026-07-27  7:12     ` Zhentao Guo

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