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From: Aneesh Kumar K.V <aneesh.kumar@kernel.org>
To: Michael Kelley <mhklinux@outlook.com>,
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Subject: RE: [PATCH v5 05/20] dma-pool: track decrypted atomic pools and select them via attrs
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 2026 20:27:36 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <yq5apl26qrof.fsf@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <SN6PR02MB4157F94C902B78E55E99372DD4102@SN6PR02MB4157.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Michael Kelley <mhklinux@outlook.com> writes:

> From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgg@ziepe.ca> Sent: Tuesday, June 2, 2026 5:55 PM
>> 
>> On Tue, Jun 02, 2026 at 02:24:40PM +0000, Michael Kelley wrote:
>> 
>> > Except that in a normal VM, the "unencrypted" pool attribute does *not*
>> > describe the state of the memory itself.  In a normal VM, the memory is
>> > unencrypted, but the "unencrypted" pool attribute is false. That
>> > contradiction is the essence of my concern.
>> 
>> I would argue no..
>> 
>> When CC is enabled the default state of memory in a Linux environment
>> is "encrypted". You have to take a special action to "decrypt" it.
>> 
>> Thus the default state of memory in a non-CC environment is also
>> paradoxically "encrypted" too. 
>
> The need to have such an unnatural premise is usually an indication
> of a conceptual problem with the overall model, or perhaps just a
> terminology problem. 
>
> Here's a proposal. The new DMA attribute is DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED.
> Name the pool attribute "cc_shared" instead of "unencrypted". Having
> "cc_shared" set to false in a normal VM doesn't lead to the non-sensical
> situation of claiming that a normal VM is encrypted. The boolean
> "unencrypted" parameter that has been added to various calls also
> becomes "cc_shared".  If "CC_SHARED" is a suitable name for the DMA
> attribute, it ought to be suitable as the pool attribute. And everything
> matches as well.
>

That is better. It would also simplify:

	if (mem->unencrypted != !!(attrs & DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED))
		return NULL;

to
	if (mem->cc_shared != !!(attrs & DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED))
		return NULL;


I already sent a v6 in the hope of getting this merged for the next
merge window. Should I send a v7, or would you prefer that I do the
rename on top of v6?

-aneesh


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-06-04 14:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-22  4:27 [PATCH v5 00/20] dma-mapping: Use DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED through direct, pool and swiotlb paths Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-22  4:27 ` [PATCH v5 01/20] [DO NOT MERGE] arm64/coco: Add pKVM as a CC platform Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-22  4:27 ` [PATCH v5 02/20] [DO NOT MERGE] s390: Expose protected virtualization through cc_platform_has() Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-22 15:35   ` JAEHOON KIM
2026-05-22  4:27 ` [PATCH v5 03/20] dma-direct: swiotlb: handle swiotlb alloc/free outside __dma_direct_alloc_pages Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-22  4:27 ` [PATCH v5 04/20] dma-direct: use DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED in alloc/free paths Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-22  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 05/20] dma-pool: track decrypted atomic pools and select them via attrs Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-28 18:29   ` Michael Kelley
2026-06-02  6:05     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-06-02 14:24       ` Michael Kelley
2026-06-03  0:54         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-04 14:05           ` Michael Kelley
2026-06-04 14:30             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-04 14:57             ` Aneesh Kumar K.V [this message]
2026-06-04 16:18               ` Michael Kelley
2026-05-22  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 06/20] dma: swiotlb: pass mapping attributes by reference Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-22  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 07/20] dma: swiotlb: track pool encryption state and honor DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-22  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 08/20] dma-mapping: make dma_pgprot() " Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-22  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 09/20] dma-direct: pass attrs to dma_capable() for DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED checks Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-22  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 10/20] dma-direct: make dma_direct_map_phys() honor DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-26  2:56   ` Michael Kelley
2026-05-26 15:39     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2026-06-02  6:10     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2026-05-22  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 11/20] dma-direct: set decrypted flag for remapped DMA allocations Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-22  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 12/20] dma-direct: select DMA address encoding from DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-22  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 13/20] dma-pool: fix page leak in atomic_pool_expand() cleanup Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-22  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 14/20] dma-direct: rename ret to cpu_addr in alloc helpers Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-22  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 15/20] dma-direct: return struct page from dma_direct_alloc_from_pool() Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-22  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 16/20] iommu/dma: Check atomic pool allocation result directly Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-22  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 17/20] dma: swiotlb: free dynamic pools from process context Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-22  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 18/20] dma: swiotlb: handle set_memory_decrypted() failures Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-22  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 19/20] dma: free atomic pool pages by physical address Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-22  4:28 ` [PATCH v5 20/20] swiotlb: Preserve allocation virtual address for dynamic pools Aneesh Kumar K.V (Arm)
2026-05-26  4:30 ` [PATCH v5 00/20] dma-mapping: Use DMA_ATTR_CC_SHARED through direct, pool and swiotlb paths Michael Kelley

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