* audit regressions in 4.11 @ 2017-04-09 3:02 Seth Forshee 2017-04-09 13:14 ` Paul Moore 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Seth Forshee @ 2017-04-09 3:02 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul Moore, Eric Paris; +Cc: linux-audit, linux-kernel I've observed audit regressions in 4.11-rc when not using a userspace audit daemon. The most obvious issue is that audit messages are not appearing in dmesg anymore. If a sufficient number of audit messages are generated the kernel will also start invoking the OOM killer. It looks like previously, when there's no auditd in userspace kauditd would call kauditd_hold_skb(), which prints the message using printk and either frees the skb or queues it (with a limit on the number of queued skb's by default). Since 5b52330bbfe6 "audit: fix auditd/kernel connection state tracking" when there's no auditd kauditd will instead use the retry queue, which has no limit. But it will not process the retry queue when there's no auditd, so messages pile up there indefinitely. Thanks, Seth ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: audit regressions in 4.11 2017-04-09 3:02 audit regressions in 4.11 Seth Forshee @ 2017-04-09 13:14 ` Paul Moore 2017-04-09 14:40 ` Seth Forshee 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Paul Moore @ 2017-04-09 13:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Seth Forshee; +Cc: Eric Paris, linux-audit, linux-kernel On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> wrote: > I've observed audit regressions in 4.11-rc when not using a userspace > audit daemon. The most obvious issue is that audit messages are not > appearing in dmesg anymore. If a sufficient number of audit messages are > generated the kernel will also start invoking the OOM killer. > > It looks like previously, when there's no auditd in userspace kauditd > would call kauditd_hold_skb(), which prints the message using printk and > either frees the skb or queues it (with a limit on the number of queued > skb's by default). > > Since 5b52330bbfe6 "audit: fix auditd/kernel connection state tracking" > when there's no auditd kauditd will instead use the retry queue, which > has no limit. But it will not process the retry queue when there's no > auditd, so messages pile up there indefinitely. Hi Seth, Thanks for the report. Let me play with this and think on it for a bit, but looking at the code again I think the issue is that we check to see if auditd is connected at the top of the kauditd_thread() loop and if it isn't we skip right to the main_queue label and bypass the hold/retry queue processing which has the logic to ensure the retry queue is managed correctly. My initial thinking is that the fix is to check and see if auditd is connected in kauditd_retry_skb(), if it isn't we skip the retry queue and call kauditd_hold_skb(), if auditd is connected we add the record to the retry queue (what we currently do). -- paul moore www.paul-moore.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: audit regressions in 4.11 2017-04-09 13:14 ` Paul Moore @ 2017-04-09 14:40 ` Seth Forshee 2017-04-09 15:43 ` Paul Moore 0 siblings, 1 reply; 4+ messages in thread From: Seth Forshee @ 2017-04-09 14:40 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Paul Moore; +Cc: Eric Paris, linux-audit, linux-kernel On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 09:14:03AM -0400, Paul Moore wrote: > On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Seth Forshee > <seth.forshee@canonical.com> wrote: > > I've observed audit regressions in 4.11-rc when not using a userspace > > audit daemon. The most obvious issue is that audit messages are not > > appearing in dmesg anymore. If a sufficient number of audit messages are > > generated the kernel will also start invoking the OOM killer. > > > > It looks like previously, when there's no auditd in userspace kauditd > > would call kauditd_hold_skb(), which prints the message using printk and > > either frees the skb or queues it (with a limit on the number of queued > > skb's by default). > > > > Since 5b52330bbfe6 "audit: fix auditd/kernel connection state tracking" > > when there's no auditd kauditd will instead use the retry queue, which > > has no limit. But it will not process the retry queue when there's no > > auditd, so messages pile up there indefinitely. > > Hi Seth, > > Thanks for the report. Let me play with this and think on it for a > bit, but looking at the code again I think the issue is that we check > to see if auditd is connected at the top of the kauditd_thread() loop > and if it isn't we skip right to the main_queue label and bypass the > hold/retry queue processing which has the logic to ensure the retry > queue is managed correctly. My initial thinking is that the fix is to > check and see if auditd is connected in kauditd_retry_skb(), if it > isn't we skip the retry queue and call kauditd_hold_skb(), if auditd > is connected we add the record to the retry queue (what we currently > do). Yeah, my first thought was to make this change: kauditd_send_queue(sk, portid, &audit_queue, 1, kauditd_send_multicast_skb, - kauditd_retry_skb); + sk ? kauditd_retry_skb : kauditd_hold_skb); However some scenarios could result in unbounded queueing on the hold queue as well, so I'm not sure if that's quite enough. Thanks, Seth ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
* Re: audit regressions in 4.11 2017-04-09 14:40 ` Seth Forshee @ 2017-04-09 15:43 ` Paul Moore 0 siblings, 0 replies; 4+ messages in thread From: Paul Moore @ 2017-04-09 15:43 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Seth Forshee; +Cc: linux-audit, linux-kernel On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 10:40 AM, Seth Forshee <seth.forshee@canonical.com> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 09, 2017 at 09:14:03AM -0400, Paul Moore wrote: >> On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 11:02 PM, Seth Forshee >> <seth.forshee@canonical.com> wrote: >> > I've observed audit regressions in 4.11-rc when not using a userspace >> > audit daemon. The most obvious issue is that audit messages are not >> > appearing in dmesg anymore. If a sufficient number of audit messages are >> > generated the kernel will also start invoking the OOM killer. >> > >> > It looks like previously, when there's no auditd in userspace kauditd >> > would call kauditd_hold_skb(), which prints the message using printk and >> > either frees the skb or queues it (with a limit on the number of queued >> > skb's by default). >> > >> > Since 5b52330bbfe6 "audit: fix auditd/kernel connection state tracking" >> > when there's no auditd kauditd will instead use the retry queue, which >> > has no limit. But it will not process the retry queue when there's no >> > auditd, so messages pile up there indefinitely. >> >> Hi Seth, >> >> Thanks for the report. Let me play with this and think on it for a >> bit, but looking at the code again I think the issue is that we check >> to see if auditd is connected at the top of the kauditd_thread() loop >> and if it isn't we skip right to the main_queue label and bypass the >> hold/retry queue processing which has the logic to ensure the retry >> queue is managed correctly. My initial thinking is that the fix is to >> check and see if auditd is connected in kauditd_retry_skb(), if it >> isn't we skip the retry queue and call kauditd_hold_skb(), if auditd >> is connected we add the record to the retry queue (what we currently >> do). > > Yeah, my first thought was to make this change: > > kauditd_send_queue(sk, portid, &audit_queue, 1, > kauditd_send_multicast_skb, > - kauditd_retry_skb); > + sk ? kauditd_retry_skb : kauditd_hold_skb); > > However some scenarios could result in unbounded queueing on the hold > queue as well, so I'm not sure if that's quite enough. At the moment I think I'd prefer to put the auditd check inside kauditd_retry_skb() itself, but you've got the basic idea. Keep in mind that kauditd_hold_skb() already has the logic inside itself to prevent the hold queue from growing out of control. -- paul moore www.paul-moore.com ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 4+ messages in thread
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