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From: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
To: Eric Paris <eparis@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-audit@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/7] audit: implement generic feature setting and retrieving
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 14:30:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2159084.93XGNZxGYL@x2> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1373320507.2395.50.camel@dhcp137-13.rdu.redhat.com>

On Monday, July 08, 2013 05:55:07 PM Eric Paris wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-07-08 at 16:28 -0400, Steve Grubb wrote:
> > On Friday, May 24, 2013 12:11:44 PM Eric Paris wrote:
> > > The audit_status structure was not designed with extensibility in mind.
> > > Define a new AUDIT_SET_FEATURE message type which takes a new structure
> > > of bits where things can be enabled/disabled/locked one at a time.
> > 
> > This changes how we have been doing things. The way that the audit system
> > settings have been done is to use the AUDIT_SET and AUDIT_GET commands. It
> > takes a bit map as the function to perform. We have only used 5 of the 32
> > bits.
> > 
> > Do we really need another of the same thing?
> 
> It's not the same thing.  This is an interface designed for options
> which have 4 states.  On/Off and Locked/Unlocked.  It is certainly the
> right solution for that problem if we want to solve it generically.
> (look at what it did to the other code who wanted an on/off option)
> 
> AUDIT_SET/GET was designed around setting a kernel variable to a single
> value.  It does an ok job at this (although I'd argue that there could
> be a better design here as well, but we have this, so we live with it.)
> It certainly does not form naturally to the 4 states of the new
> interface.

I did some more digging. I guess the GET/SET interface is limited. Setting 
values could be done by reusing one of the places in the struct, but then 
getting the values would be a problem.

So, how is user space supposed to detect that the kernel supports this 
interface? What I have needed for years is a way to ask the kernel what 
features it currently contains. For example, if you try to use interfield 
comparisons and the kernel doesn't support it, I get an EINVAL and bounce that 
to the user. What would be better is if I could ask the kernel what features 
it contains and then I can not send the interfield comparison but output a 
message saying the current kernel does not support this feature.


> I can certainly shoehorn a 4 state interface into AUDIT_SET/GET. 

Does the new interface support more than 4 a state variable? Suppose we need 
to set a number value like 8192, will it do that?

-Steve

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-07-09 18:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-05-24 16:11 [PATCH 1/7] audit: implement generic feature setting and retrieving Eric Paris
2013-05-24 16:11 ` [PATCH 2/7] selinux: apply selinux checks on new audit message types Eric Paris
2013-05-24 16:11 ` [PATCH 3/7] audit: loginuid functions coding style Eric Paris
2013-05-24 16:11 ` [PATCH 4/7] audit: remove CONFIG_AUDIT_LOGINUID_IMMUTABLE Eric Paris
2013-05-24 16:11 ` [PATCH 5/7] audit: allow unsetting the loginuid (with priv) Eric Paris
2013-05-24 16:11 ` [PATCH 6/7] audit: audit feature to only allow unsetting the loginuid Eric Paris
2013-05-24 16:11 ` [PATCH 7/7] audit: audit feature to set loginuid immutable Eric Paris
2013-07-08 20:34   ` Steve Grubb
2013-07-08 20:51     ` Eric Paris
2013-07-08 21:26       ` Steve Grubb
2013-07-08 21:32         ` Eric Paris
2013-07-09 22:24           ` Steve Grubb
2013-07-09 23:51             ` LC Bruzenak
2013-07-10 13:46               ` Steve Grubb
2013-07-10 14:32                 ` LC Bruzenak
2013-07-10 18:16                   ` Eric Paris
2013-07-10 18:51                     ` LC Bruzenak
2013-07-10 19:02                       ` LC Bruzenak
2013-07-10 19:09                       ` Eric Paris
2013-05-24 16:28 ` [PATCH 1/7] audit: implement generic feature setting and retrieving Eric Paris
2013-05-24 20:41   ` William Roberts
2013-05-24 20:56     ` William Roberts
2013-05-30 17:20 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-07-08 20:28 ` Steve Grubb
2013-07-08 21:55   ` Eric Paris
2013-07-09  1:18     ` William Roberts
2013-07-09 18:30     ` Steve Grubb [this message]
2013-07-09 20:59       ` Eric Paris
2013-07-09 22:08 ` Steve Grubb
2013-11-02  7:26 ` Richard Guy Briggs
2013-11-02 14:44   ` Eric Paris
2014-08-22 21:58 ` Steve Grubb

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