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From: Linda Knippers <linda.knippers@hp.com>
To: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-audit@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] IPC_SET_PERM cleanup
Date: Tue, 09 May 2006 13:47:26 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4460D5AE.8040700@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200605091155.34730.sgrubb@redhat.com>

>>If someone is looking for the records for a particular uid, wouldn't
>>> they expect to get the records generated by someone with that uid?
> 
> Not necessarily. I would like to present all matches of uid and let them 
> decide what is relavent.

It seems to me like you could be generating alot of noise.  What will
an ausearch -ui <uid> give you?  The manpage says:

>  -ui <user id>
>               Search for an event with the given user ID.

I wouldn't expect that to include events generated by other users
that used the user id as an argument.

>>At this point there are already a bunch of uid fields (auid, uid, euid,
>>> suid, fsuid, iuid, ouid) in various audit records, and a similar set
>>> of guid files, so would you be happier with nuid, ngid, etc?
> 
> 
> Does ouid and ogid not fit? I'd like us to define what we need in the parser 
> API and then use it in the audit messages. Ancilliary words like new, old, 
> last, first should not be tied with an underscore. If you find any, let me 
> know.

According to your spec, ouid means file owner uid, so that doesn't seem
to fit.

I'm starting to wonder whether we actually need the IPC_NEW_PERMS
record.  We don't spell out similar information for chown, for
example.  In that case, the new owner is a1 field.  Do we treat IPC's
differently because their argument is a structure pointer?

In any case, if someone truly wanted to get all audit records that
had the uid either as part of the subject/object identity and also
included all records that had the uid as an argument, they'd need
to look at the a* fields for other system calls as well.  Since we
don't look at the a* arguments for other syscalls, it doesn't seem
like we should include the arguments for the IPC syscalls if someone
is searching for the records generated by a uid.

-- ljk

  parent reply	other threads:[~2006-05-09 17:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2006-05-05 20:19 [PATCH] IPC_SET_PERM cleanup Linda Knippers
2006-05-05 20:42 ` Steve Grubb
2006-05-05 20:59   ` Linda Knippers
2006-05-09 14:51     ` Klaus Weidner
2006-05-05 21:26 ` Linda Knippers
2006-05-08 18:29 ` Dustin Kirkland
2006-05-08 18:29 ` Dustin Kirkland
2006-05-08 19:06   ` Linda Knippers
2006-05-09 14:59   ` Klaus Weidner
2006-05-09 15:05     ` Steve Grubb
2006-05-09 15:12       ` Linda Knippers
2006-05-09 15:21         ` Steve Grubb
2006-05-09 15:34           ` Linda Knippers
2006-05-09 15:55             ` Steve Grubb
2006-05-09 16:33               ` Klaus Weidner
2006-05-09 17:47               ` Linda Knippers [this message]
2006-05-09 18:15                 ` Klaus Weidner
2006-05-09 18:27                   ` Linda Knippers
2006-05-09 19:11                     ` Steve Grubb
2006-05-09 20:10                       ` Klaus Weidner
2006-05-09 20:36                         ` Klaus Weidner
2006-05-09 20:46                           ` Linda Knippers
2006-05-10 14:02                             ` Steve Grubb
2006-05-10 16:29                               ` Klaus Weidner
2006-05-10 17:02                                 ` Dustin Kirkland
2006-05-10 17:11                                   ` Klaus Weidner
2006-05-10 17:22                                     ` Linda Knippers
2006-05-10 17:29                                     ` Steve Grubb
2006-05-10 18:10                                       ` Klaus Weidner
2006-05-10 17:28                                 ` Steve Grubb
2006-05-10 18:05                                   ` Linda Knippers
2006-05-10 18:20                                     ` Steve Grubb
2006-05-09 15:53           ` Amy Griffis
2006-05-09 15:07 ` Steve Grubb

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