From: Michael C Thompson <thompsmc@us.ibm.com>
To: Michael C Thompson <thompsmc@us.ibm.com>
Cc: linux-audit@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Bypassing audit's file watches
Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 11:20:43 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <44AE89DB.9080102@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <44AE8715.5040309@us.ibm.com>
Michael C Thompson wrote:
> Timothy R. Chavez wrote:
>> On Fri, 2006-07-07 at 10:58 -0400, Steve wrote:
>>> I have found that I can modify files that are being watched and audit
>>> not catch it (ie. no events are dispatched). When monitoring a file
>>> for all system calls, I can:
>>>
>>> echo "" > /file/to/watch
>>>
>>> or
>>>
>>> cat some_file > /file/to/watch
>>>
>>> without generating audit events. I assume this has to do with how
>>> the kernel handles re-direction. Is it possible to catch these
>>> modifications?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Steve
>>
>> What are your rules? You should catch these on open()
>> of /file/to/watch, right?
>>
>> -tim
>
> I am seeing this as well with the .42 kernel and audit-1.2.4-1. Not sure
> when this might have broken, but its broke now.
>
> It seems if you set a watch on /file/to (to use your example above),
> then you are getting the opens that bash does, although the PATH record
> shows the item as "/file/to/watch".
>
> So watching the parent directory will audit redirect shell magic, but
> watching the target of that redirection will not audit that same magic.
>
> Mike
Oh, and it turns out if the action fails, then the watch on the target
of redirection will get audited. So if you echo "123" >
not_writable_file, and you have a watch on 'not_writable_file', you will
see an audit record, but if the write is successful, then you don't see it.
Mike
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2006-07-07 16:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2006-07-07 14:58 Bypassing audit's file watches Steve
2006-07-07 15:59 ` Timothy R. Chavez
2006-07-07 16:08 ` Michael C Thompson
2006-07-07 16:20 ` Michael C Thompson [this message]
2006-07-08 2:00 ` Amy Griffis
2006-07-10 11:32 ` Steve
2006-07-10 22:31 ` Amy Griffis
2006-07-11 15:07 ` Michael C Thompson
2006-07-10 15:16 ` Timothy R. Chavez
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