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From: John Dennis <jdennis@redhat.com>
To: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-audit@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fix acct quoting in audit_log_acct_message())
Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:29:10 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <47CDB116.7010007@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200803041356.19571.sgrubb@redhat.com>

Steve Grubb wrote:
>  If there's no agreement with them, should we change anything? 
> auparse is working pretty good as is.

No it's not. The auparse approach is based on tables, tables which have 
been shown to be incorrect and tied to kernel versions and the patch set 
used to build that kernel version. Like it or not, audit data is and 
will be divorced from kernel versions. In fact audit data will derive 
from a mix of different kernel versions if the audit data is aggregated, 
which is the plan. In the current scheme there is no realistic way to 
process audit data from thousands of nodes all running different kernels 
in an enterprise wide auditing system.

Any scheme which requires knowing the kernel version and patch set to 
correctly read the data is broken. Attempts to cast this issue as 
pandering to userspace weenies is off the mark by a mile.
-- 
John Dennis <jdennis@redhat.com>

  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-03-04 20:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-03-04  3:50 [PATCH] Fix acct quoting in audit_log_acct_message()) Miloslav Trmac
2008-03-04 15:07 ` John Dennis
2008-03-04 18:10   ` Tomas Mraz
2008-03-04 18:29     ` John Dennis
2008-03-04 19:05       ` Eric Paris
2008-03-05  4:02         ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2008-03-05 13:15           ` Eric Paris
2008-03-04 18:56     ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-04 19:08       ` Miloslav Trmac
2008-03-04 19:28         ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-04 19:15       ` Eric Paris
2008-03-04 20:41         ` John Dennis
2008-03-04 20:29       ` John Dennis [this message]
2008-03-04 20:36         ` Tomas Mraz
2008-03-04 20:57           ` John Dennis
2008-03-04 20:43         ` Eric Paris
2008-03-04 20:52           ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-04 21:21           ` John Dennis
2008-03-04 21:38             ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-04 21:55               ` Eric Paris
2008-03-04 22:03                 ` Eric Paris
2008-03-04 22:18                   ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-04 22:32                   ` John Dennis
2008-03-05 14:11                     ` John Dennis
2008-03-04 22:14                 ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-04 22:21                   ` Eric Paris
2008-03-04 23:00                     ` Steve Grubb
2008-03-09 18:36 ` Steve Grubb
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2008-03-05 13:55 Miloslav Trmac
2008-03-05 14:11 ` Tomas Mraz
2008-03-05 15:04   ` John Dennis
2008-03-05 15:21     ` Tomas Mraz
2008-03-05 15:29       ` Steve Grubb

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