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From: "Carl E. Thompson" <list-bcachefs@carlthompson.net>
To: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Kent Overstreet <kent.overstreet@linux.dev>
Cc: "Josef Bacik" <josef@toxicpanda.com>,
	"Aquinas Admin" <admin@aquinas.su>,
	"Malte Schröder" <malte.schroeder@tnxip.de>,
	"Linus Torvalds" <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-bcachefs@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] bcachefs changes for 6.17
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2025 23:05:58 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <745617536.363.1754805958174@mail.carlthompson.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250810022436.GA966107@mit.edu>


> On 2025-08-09 7:24 PM PDT Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu> wrote:

> ... unless you can find someone willing to be your intermediary, and
> hopefully your coach in how to better work with other people ...

Going that route would just prolong Kent's attack on all of you (and the kernel) and make the damage worse. It's not a matter of getting him to understand; He's *always* understood what is needed from him but he does not believe in it and will not do it. Even though he is now (once again) promising to behave he won't. You all know that. Giving him yet another chance right now won't undo the damage that's already been done to Linux and will only allow him to inflict more.

Kent has already said many times, including in this thread, that he can and will continue to work on bcachefs even if it's removed from the kernel. Let him.

This is not the time to try to fix him. This is the time to protect the thing you've spent so much of your collective lives building.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-08-10  6:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-28 15:14 [GIT PULL] bcachefs changes for 6.17 Kent Overstreet
2025-08-05 21:19 ` Malte Schröder
2025-08-05 22:41   ` Carl E. Thompson
2025-08-07 12:42     ` Aquinas Admin
2025-08-09 17:36       ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-09 19:21         ` Josef Bacik
2025-08-09 20:37           ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-09 21:34             ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-10  2:24             ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-08-10  3:17               ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-10  4:05                 ` Sasha Levin
2025-08-10  4:13                   ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-10  4:26                     ` Gerald B. Cox
2025-08-10  5:17                       ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-10  5:59                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2025-08-10  6:51                         ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-10 10:22                         ` Martin Steigerwald
2025-08-11 15:48                         ` Peanut gallery 2c James Lawrence
2025-08-11 16:08                           ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-11 17:00                             ` James Lawrence
     [not found]                             ` <aJsIOj6jbPKayO0s@mayhem.fritz.box>
2025-08-12 16:26                               ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-11 16:48                   ` [GIT PULL] bcachefs changes for 6.17 Aquinas Admin
2025-08-10  8:02                 ` Martin Steigerwald
2025-08-10  6:05               ` Carl E. Thompson [this message]
2025-08-11 16:02           ` Aquinas Admin
2025-08-11 16:09             ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-09 23:01         ` Matthew Wilcox
2025-08-09 23:13           ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-12  7:49             ` Jani Partanen
2025-08-12 10:09               ` Martin Steigerwald
2025-08-11  9:51         ` Konstantin Shelekhin
2025-08-11 14:26           ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-11 18:13             ` Carl E. Thompson
2025-08-11 18:40               ` Malte Schröder
2025-08-12  0:44                 ` Carl E. Thompson
2025-08-11 18:48               ` Aquinas Admin
2025-08-11 19:42               ` Martin Steigerwald
2025-08-11 21:04             ` Konstantin Shelekhin
2025-08-12  1:08               ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-12  6:52             ` asdx
2025-08-12  7:04               ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-12  7:17                 ` asdx
2025-08-12 19:35             ` Keith Busch
2025-08-12 20:03               ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-12 20:30                 ` Keith Busch
2025-08-12 20:31                   ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-12 20:38                     ` Keith Busch
2025-08-12 20:45                       ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-12 20:54                         ` Keith Busch
2025-08-12 20:57                           ` Kent Overstreet
2025-08-11 16:45           ` Aquinas Admin
2025-08-10  4:29       ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2025-08-07 14:27   ` Martin Steigerwald
2025-08-07 17:29   ` Peter Schneider
2025-08-10  6:20 ` Gerhard Wiesinger
2025-08-10 10:32   ` Martin Steigerwald

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