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From: Leonid Ravich <lravich@amazon.com>
To: Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: Alasdair Kergon <agk@redhat.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ardb@kernel.org>, "Jens Axboe" <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	<dm-devel@lists.linux.dev>, <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 0/3] crypto: skcipher - per-request multi-data-unit batching
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2026 07:10:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260622071044.4079-1-lravich@amazon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ajDWww8OgNcXs73c@gondor.apana.org.au>

On Mon, Jun 15, 2026 at 03:53:17PM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> So in other words, this series slows down dm-crypt and crypto_skcipher
> for everyone to optimize for an out-of-tree driver.  And there's also no
> benchmark showing that your driver is even worth it over just using the
> CPU.

I measured on arm64 (Graviton3, dm-crypt + xts-aes-ce, RAM-backed,
fixed CPU freq):

  - 4 KiB random write, 512-byte sectors: v4 as posted regressed ~5%.
    Root cause (ftrace): a per-bio kmalloc_array() for the scatterlists,
    where the per-sector path uses dm-crypt's inline sg_in[]/sg_out[].

  - Reusing the inline arrays when the segment count fits (heap only for
    larger bios) removes the regression, back to parity. This will be in
    the dm-crypt patch for v5.

So the software path is neutral after the fix, not slower. No software throughput win
either: the auto-splitter still calls alg->encrypt per data unit. The win
is for a consumer that takes the whole request in one pass, a HW engine,
or any async offload engine that pays a fixed per-request cost,
it currently pays once per sector instead of once per bio.

I'd rather not over-complicate the patches until there's a general
ack on the direction: per-request data_unit_size + auto-split,
enabling one-pass consumers, neutral for everyone else. Is that direction
acceptable? If so I'll respin v5.

Thanks,
Leonid

      reply	other threads:[~2026-06-22  7:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-15 11:14 [PATCH v4 0/3] crypto: skcipher - per-request multi-data-unit batching Leonid Ravich
2026-06-15 11:14 ` [PATCH v4 1/3] crypto: skcipher - add per-request data_unit_size with auto-splitting Leonid Ravich
2026-06-15 11:14 ` [PATCH v4 2/3] crypto: testmgr - test for multi-data-unit dispatch Leonid Ravich
2026-06-15 11:14 ` [PATCH v4 3/3] dm crypt: batch all sectors of a bio per crypto request Leonid Ravich
2026-06-15 22:53 ` [PATCH v4 0/3] crypto: skcipher - per-request multi-data-unit batching Eric Biggers
2026-06-16  4:13   ` Herbert Xu
2026-06-16  4:50     ` Eric Biggers
2026-06-16  4:53       ` Herbert Xu
2026-06-22  7:10         ` Leonid Ravich [this message]

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