From: Nikolay Borisov <nborisov@suse.com>
To: Ric Wheeler <ricwheeler@gmail.com>, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org,
Linux FS Devel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
lczerner@redhat.com
Subject: Re: Testing devices for discard support properly
Date: Tue, 7 May 2019 11:21:52 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <53ed750b-0b92-510b-495d-384de49967b2@suse.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4a484c50-ef29-2db9-d581-557c2ea8f494@gmail.com>
On 6.05.19 г. 23:56 ч., Ric Wheeler wrote:
>
> (repost without the html spam, sorry!)
>
> Last week at LSF/MM, I suggested we can provide a tool or test suite to
> test discard performance.
>
> Put in the most positive light, it will be useful for drive vendors to
> use to qualify their offerings before sending them out to the world. For
> customers that care, they can use the same set of tests to help during
> selection to weed out any real issues.
>
> Also, community users can run the same tools of course and share the
> results.
>
> Down to the questions part:
>
> Â * Do we just need to figure out a workload to feed our existing tools
> like blkdiscard and fio?
>
> * What workloads are key?
>
> Thoughts about what I would start getting timings for:
>
> * Whole device discard at the block level both for a device that has
> been completely written and for one that had already been trimmed
>
> * Discard performance at the block level for 4k discards for a device
> that has been completely written and again the same test for a device
> that has been completely discarded.
>
> * Same test for large discards - say at a megabyte and/or gigabyte size?
>
> * Same test done at the device optimal discard chunk size and alignment
>
> Should the discard pattern be done with a random pattern? Or just
> sequential?
>
> I think the above would give us a solid base, thoughts or comments?
I have some vague recollection this was brought up before but how sure
are we that when a discard request is sent down to disk and a response
is returned the actual data has indeed been discarded. What about NCQ
effects i.e "instant completion" while doing work in the background. Or
ignoring the discard request altogether?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Ric
>
>
>
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-05-07 8:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-05-06 20:56 Testing devices for discard support properly Ric Wheeler
2019-05-07 7:10 ` Lukas Czerner
2019-05-07 8:48 ` Jan Tulak
2019-05-07 9:40 ` Lukas Czerner
2019-05-07 12:57 ` Ric Wheeler
2019-05-07 15:35 ` Bryan Gurney
2019-05-07 15:44 ` Ric Wheeler
2019-05-07 20:09 ` Bryan Gurney
2019-05-07 21:24 ` Chris Mason
2019-06-03 20:01 ` Ric Wheeler
2019-05-07 8:21 ` Nikolay Borisov [this message]
2019-05-07 22:04 ` Dave Chinner
2019-05-08 0:07 ` Ric Wheeler
2019-05-08 1:14 ` Dave Chinner
2019-05-08 15:05 ` Ric Wheeler
2019-05-08 17:03 ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-05-08 17:09 ` Ric Wheeler
2019-05-08 17:25 ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-05-08 18:12 ` Ric Wheeler
2019-05-09 16:02 ` Bryan Gurney
2019-05-09 17:27 ` Ric Wheeler
2019-05-09 20:35 ` Bryan Gurney
2019-05-08 21:58 ` Dave Chinner
2019-05-09 2:29 ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-05-09 3:20 ` Dave Chinner
2019-05-09 4:35 ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-05-08 16:16 ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-05-08 22:31 ` Dave Chinner
2019-05-09 3:55 ` Martin K. Petersen
2019-05-09 13:40 ` Ric Wheeler
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