From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
linux-block@vger.kernel.org, Kun Hu <huk23@m.fudan.edu.cn>,
Jiaji Qin <jjtan24@m.fudan.edu.cn>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] loop: don't call vfs_flush() with queue frozen
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2025 23:07:42 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <Z4UsPor30ss0ML9s@fedora> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Z4UZ947fLqHusJzv@infradead.org>
On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 05:49:43AM -0800, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 13, 2025 at 05:24:46PM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > > Please state the locks. Nothing fs internal here, that report is
> > > about i_rwsem. And a false positive because it is about ordering
> > > of i_rwsem on the upper file system sitting on the loop device vs the
> > > one on the lower file systems sitting below the block device. These
> > > obviously can't deadlock, we just need to tell lockdep about that fact.
> >
> > How can you guarantee that some code won't submit IO by grabbing the
> > i_rwsem?
>
> ? A lot of the I/O will grab i_rwsem on the underlying device.
> Basically all writes, and for many file systems also on reads. But
> that is an entirely different i_rwsem as the one held the bio submitter
> as that is in different file system. There is no way the top file
> system can lock i_rwsem on the lower file system except through the
> loop driver, and that always sits below the freeze protection.
>
> > As I explained, it is fine to move out vfs_fsync() out of freeze queue.
> >
> > Actually any lock which depends on freeze queue needs to take a careful
> > look, because freeze queue connects too many global/sub-system locks.
>
> For block layer locks: absolutely. For file systems lock: not at all,
> because we're talking about different file systems instances. The only
> exception would be file systems taking global locks in the I/O path,
> but I sincerely hope no one does that.
Didn't you see the report on fs_reclaim and sysfs root lock?
https://lore.kernel.org/linux-block/197b07435a736825ab40dab8d91db031c7fce37e.camel@linux.intel.com/
Thanks,
Ming
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-01-13 15:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-01-13 2:24 [PATCH] loop: don't call vfs_flush() with queue frozen Ming Lei
2025-01-13 5:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-13 8:22 ` Ming Lei
2025-01-13 9:18 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-13 9:24 ` Ming Lei
2025-01-13 13:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-13 15:07 ` Ming Lei [this message]
2025-01-15 2:37 ` Ming Lei
2025-01-15 7:05 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-15 8:21 ` Ming Lei
2025-01-15 9:40 ` Christoph Hellwig
2025-01-14 3:21 ` Kun Hu
2025-02-18 5:39 ` Kun Hu
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