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From: Ming Lei <ming.lei@redhat.com>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>
Cc: Damien Le Moal <dlemoal@kernel.org>,
	Andreas Hindborg <nmi@metaspace.dk>,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:BLOCK LAYER" <linux-block@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andreas Hindborg <a.hindborg@samsung.com>,
	Minwoo Im <minwoo.im.dev@gmail.com>,
	Matias Bjorling <Matias.Bjorling@wdc.com>,
	gost.dev@samsung.com, Jens Axboe <axboe@kernel.dk>,
	Aravind Ramesh <Aravind.Ramesh@wdc.com>,
	Johannes Thumshirn <jth@kernel.org>,
	Hans Holmberg <Hans.Holmberg@wdc.com>,
	ming.lei@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 1/3] ublk: add opcode offsets for DRV_IN/DRV_OUT
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2023 17:27:23 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZKvO+81b9fAx2L/r@ovpn-8-31.pek2.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZKuqt6QAXic3wuRX@infradead.org>

On Sun, Jul 09, 2023 at 11:52:39PM -0700, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 07, 2023 at 08:59:03AM +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> > > let's clearly state so. But then, I still not understand why these need
> > > a different naming pattern using the "__UBLK" prefix...
> > 
> > I think __UBLK just meant we don't suggest userspace to use it directly,
> > since the added macros are just for making ranges for DRV_IN and DRV_OUT,
> > so we can check command direction easily be using this start/end info in
> > both sides.
> 
> Folks, please stop coupling a uapi (or on-disk protocol) too tightly
> to Linux internals.  Think of what makes sense as a communication
> protocol, not what is an internal kernel interface.
> 
> REPORT_ZONES is a sensible command, and supported in ATA/SCSI/NVMe in
> one way or another.  In Linux it is a synchronous method call right now
> for one reason or another, and most implementation map it to a
> passthrough command - be that the actual protocol command or something
> internal for virtio.
> 
> So for ublk this is just another command like any other, that needs to
> be defined and documented.  Nothing internal or driver specific.
 
Yes, that is exactly what we are doing.

The added macros of UBLK_IO_OP_DRV_IN_START[END] are just for supporting
more ublk passthrough commands, and the motivation is for running
check(such as buffer direction) in two sides easily.

However, I think it is just fine to delay to add it until introducing
the 2nd ublk pt command.

Thanks, 
Ming


  reply	other threads:[~2023-07-10  9:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-07-06 13:09 [PATCH v6 0/3] ublk: enable zoned storage support Andreas Hindborg
2023-07-06 13:09 ` [PATCH v6 1/3] ublk: add opcode offsets for DRV_IN/DRV_OUT Andreas Hindborg
2023-07-06 23:50   ` Damien Le Moal
2023-07-07  0:59     ` Ming Lei
2023-07-07  1:42       ` Damien Le Moal
2023-07-10  6:52       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-10  9:27         ` Ming Lei [this message]
2023-07-10  9:32           ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-10 10:02             ` Ming Lei
2023-07-11  6:23             ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-07-11  8:22               ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-11  9:02                 ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-07-11  9:27                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-11 10:15                     ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-07-11 12:01                       ` Christoph Hellwig
2023-07-06 13:09 ` [PATCH v6 2/3] ublk: add helper to check if device supports user copy Andreas Hindborg
2023-07-06 23:50   ` Damien Le Moal
2023-07-07  1:02   ` Ming Lei
2023-07-06 13:09 ` [PATCH v6 3/3] ublk: enable zoned storage support Andreas Hindborg
2023-07-07  0:19   ` Damien Le Moal
2023-07-07  6:53     ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-07-07 10:59   ` Ming Lei
2023-07-07 15:04     ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)
2023-07-08 14:11       ` Ming Lei
2023-07-10  6:07         ` Andreas Hindborg (Samsung)

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