[Bluez-users] Disable Notify Bubble?

[Bluez-users] Disable Notify Bubble?

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Re: [Bluez-users] Disable Notify Bubble?

[Marcel Holtmann]

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Re: [Bluez-users] Disable Notify Bubble?

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yes, it is wrong...
but there are bug reports for it, and nothing that i can find that works...
from the ubuntu forums no one with an MX5000 keyboard can maintain a
connection, and the solution provided was that it was an issue created by
Logitech - thus they needed to fix it...

what i have basically done is set a script that if the device disconnects
the bluetooth will restart every minute until it reconnects
so i am just using my mouse for an extended period time i start getting this
bubble.

do you think this will break something?

On Fri, May 9, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Marcel Holtmann <marcel@holtmann.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> >         I have a Logitech MX5000 keyboard.  It tends to disconnect from
> >         the
> >         computer after a few minutes of non-use. I have found that this
> >         is
> >         typical of this keyboard and no one has provided a solution yet.
> >         The
> >         only way to get it back is to break out the wired keyboard and
> >         enter the
> >         command   sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart.
> >
> >         what some on the ubuntu forums suggested is to enter the
> >         following into
> >         crontab
> >
> >         * * * * * val=`hciconfig -a 2>/dev/null | head -c 1`; [ -z
> >         $val ]
> >         && /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart
> >
> >         which works great, but now i get a notify bubble stating that my
> >         "a
> >         device has been made discoverable" every about 60 seconds.
> >         Is there a way to disable this notification?
> >
> >         and i guess the bigger question, though not what i need for the
> >         moment,
> >         is can you provide a patch that will fix this issue?
>
> you get the bubble, because you are doing something totally wrong. Don't
> call reset all the time. It is wrong. As simple as that.
>
> Write a proper bug report for the input service.
>
> Regards
>
> Marcel
>
>
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Re: [Bluez-users] Disable Notify Bubble?

[Johannes Luber]

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Re: [Bluez-users] Disable Notify Bubble?

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Re: [Bluez-users] Disable Notify Bubble?

[Marcel Holtmann]

Hi,

> sudo crontab -e
> 
> then
> 
> * * * * * val=`hciconfig -a 2>/dev/null | head -c 1`; [ -z $val ]
> && /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart
> 
> then exit and save

don't give people ideas. This is wrong. It is simply plain wrong and you
have no clue what it is actually doing. This script only treats symptoms
and not the problem. Actually that this works for you is simply pure
luck.

Regards

Marcel



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Re: [Bluez-users] Disable Notify Bubble?

[Gmail]

lol
i do understand this.. it is wrong and i wish i could find a valid fix
for it.  but, no body seems to be able to do this.  before this code i
had to use my wired keyboard and type in sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth
restart myself.  which is actually the only "fix" known - i.e. everyone
with this keyboard has to just that to use it.... there is no other fix
that i've found. so restarting it every 30 minutes myself, or having the
comp do it every 1 minute automatically... i'm happy with this for
now...

so, but yeah, until we find a cure, can someone just give me some cold
medicine and tell me how to get rid of that notify bubble?  i'm thinking
it is native to ubuntu though, as even with the bluetooth icon turned
off, i now get the bubble at another location of the screen...

On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 19:13 +0200, Marcel Holtmann wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> > sudo crontab -e
> > 
> > then
> > 
> > * * * * * val=`hciconfig -a 2>/dev/null | head -c 1`; [ -z $val ]
> > && /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart
> > 
> > then exit and save
> 
> don't give people ideas. This is wrong. It is simply plain wrong and you
> have no clue what it is actually doing. This script only treats symptoms
> and not the problem. Actually that this works for you is simply pure
> luck.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Marcel
> 
> 
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Re: [Bluez-users] Disable Notify Bubble?

[Marcel Holtmann]

Hi,

> i do understand this.. it is wrong and i wish i could find a valid fix
> for it.  but, no body seems to be able to do this.  before this code i
> had to use my wired keyboard and type in sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth
> restart myself.  which is actually the only "fix" known - i.e. everyone
> with this keyboard has to just that to use it.... there is no other fix
> that i've found. so restarting it every 30 minutes myself, or having the
> comp do it every 1 minute automatically... i'm happy with this for
> now...
> 
> so, but yeah, until we find a cure, can someone just give me some cold
> medicine and tell me how to get rid of that notify bubble?  i'm thinking
> it is native to ubuntu though, as even with the bluetooth icon turned
> off, i now get the bubble at another location of the screen...

it is technically impossible. Since what you do is equal with a device
reset and that is what you see with the bubbles. The UI doesn't get any
detailed information and that is on purpose. We keep our UI stupid since
the intelligence should be done within the system daemon and no the
desktop system.

Regards

Marcel



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Re: [Bluez-users] Disable Notify Bubble?

[Micha]

On Sun, 11 May 2008 16:04:19 -0400
Gmail <patnjer12@gmail.com> wrote:

> lol
> i do understand this.. it is wrong and i wish i could find a valid fix
> for it.  but, no body seems to be able to do this.  before this code i
> had to use my wired keyboard and type in sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth
> restart myself.  which is actually the only "fix" known - i.e. everyone
> with this keyboard has to just that to use it.... there is no other fix
> that i've found. so restarting it every 30 minutes myself, or having the
> comp do it every 1 minute automatically... i'm happy with this for
> now...
> 
> so, but yeah, until we find a cure, can someone just give me some cold
> medicine and tell me how to get rid of that notify bubble?  i'm thinking
> it is native to ubuntu though, as even with the bluetooth icon turned
> off, i now get the bubble at another location of the screen...
> 

You probably need to unintall the notification-daemon package (that is at least
the debian package name that I believe is responsible for the notification
bubble).

It will kill all notification bubbles though.

> On Sun, 2008-05-11 at 19:13 +0200, Marcel Holtmann wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > > sudo crontab -e
> > > 
> > > then
> > > 
> > > * * * * * val=`hciconfig -a 2>/dev/null | head -c 1`; [ -z $val ]
> > > && /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart
> > > 
> > > then exit and save
> > 
> > don't give people ideas. This is wrong. It is simply plain wrong and you
> > have no clue what it is actually doing. This script only treats symptoms
> > and not the problem. Actually that this works for you is simply pure
> > luck.
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Marcel
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Re: [Bluez-users] Disable Notify Bubble?

[Dick]

Marcel Holtmann <marcel <at> holtmann.org> writes:
> don't give people ideas. This is wrong. It is simply plain wrong and you
> have no clue what it is actually doing. This script only treats symptoms
> and not the problem. Actually that this works for you is simply pure
> luck.

Hi Marcel,

I really like to create proper bug report, the above (very dirty) work around
crossed my mind but I skipped it. The last year I've posted questions how I
could debug this issue (and create a proper bug report) without any helpfull
replies.

I will give you the symptoms:
- Occures *sometimes* after a disconnect
- Both keyboard and mouse are affected
- Sometimes restarting the input service works
- Sometimes only resetting hci0 works (hciconfig hci0 reset)
- Sometimes only resetting the input device works
- Occurs mostly when hcitool con gives SLAVE for the input devices
- hcidump gives output when input is send from the input device (typing keys /
moving mouse)
- I've "trusted" the input devices
- Started to occur since the input service replaced hidd
- Dmesg gets filled with
  input: Logitech MX1000 mouse as /class/input/input13
  input: Logitech diNovo Keyboard as /class/input/input14
  input: Logitech MX1000 mouse as /class/input/input15
  input: Logitech diNovo Keyboard as /class/input/input16
  input: Logitech MX1000 mouse as /class/input/input17
  input: Logitech diNovo Keyboard as /class/input/input18
  input: Logitech MX1000 mouse as /class/input/input19
  etc.

Please tell me what else I need to submit for a proper bug report.

Thanks for bluez, besides these issues I'm very happy with this state of the art
bluetooth stack.

greetings,
Dick


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Re: [Bluez-users] Disable Notify Bubble?

[Marcel Holtmann]

Hi Dick,

> > don't give people ideas. This is wrong. It is simply plain wrong and you
> > have no clue what it is actually doing. This script only treats symptoms
> > and not the problem. Actually that this works for you is simply pure
> > luck.
> 
> Hi Marcel,
> 
> I really like to create proper bug report, the above (very dirty) work around
> crossed my mind but I skipped it. The last year I've posted questions how I
> could debug this issue (and create a proper bug report) without any helpfull
> replies.
> 
> I will give you the symptoms:
> - Occures *sometimes* after a disconnect
> - Both keyboard and mouse are affected
> - Sometimes restarting the input service works
> - Sometimes only resetting hci0 works (hciconfig hci0 reset)
> - Sometimes only resetting the input device works
> - Occurs mostly when hcitool con gives SLAVE for the input devices
> - hcidump gives output when input is send from the input device (typing keys /
> moving mouse)
> - I've "trusted" the input devices
> - Started to occur since the input service replaced hidd
> - Dmesg gets filled with
>   input: Logitech MX1000 mouse as /class/input/input13
>   input: Logitech diNovo Keyboard as /class/input/input14
>   input: Logitech MX1000 mouse as /class/input/input15
>   input: Logitech diNovo Keyboard as /class/input/input16
>   input: Logitech MX1000 mouse as /class/input/input17
>   input: Logitech diNovo Keyboard as /class/input/input18
>   input: Logitech MX1000 mouse as /class/input/input19
>   etc.
> 
> Please tell me what else I need to submit for a proper bug report.

first of all post it to the BlueZ developer mailing list. Filing bug
reports with Ubuntu or Fedora doesn't always get the proper attention.

Also always include the hcitool info output since otherwise we have no
idea what is running on the device. Also include the local adapter
version information and what kernel and utils you are using. This is
mandatory.

Then run "hcidump -X -V" to have us see what actually happens here. Does
the device tries to reconnect etc.

If no developer gets your attention on the mailing list (yes this
happens since most of us are busy sometimes), ping them on the #bluez
IRC channel. And then be prepared to test patches and run latest CVS
code, because nobody of us is going to debug old versions if we think
this has been fixed already.

Regards

Marcel



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