* [Bluez-users] FW: hid2hci for the new iMAC
@ 2008-06-27 11:21 Axel Dine
2008-06-27 22:27 ` Marcel Holtmann
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Axel Dine @ 2008-06-27 11:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bluez-users
Hi everybody,
I've looked around but it seems there is no one having faced this problem: I have a new 24" iMac (Core 2 Duo) with integrated bluetooth (Broadcom 2045).
Starting with Linux (2.6.24, bluez ver. 3.30) I am unable to switch the bluetooth HID device to HCI.
This is my lsusb:
root@uranus:~# lsusb -t
Bus# 7
`-Dev# 1 Vendor 0x1d6b Product 0x0002
`-Dev# 2 Vendor 0x05ac Product 0x8502
Bus# 6
`-Dev# 1 Vendor 0x1d6b Product 0x0002
Bus# 5
`-Dev# 1 Vendor 0x1d6b Product 0x0001
`-Dev# 2 Vendor 0x05ac Product 0x8242
Bus# 4
`-Dev# 1 Vendor 0x1d6b Product 0x0001
Bus# 3
`-Dev# 1 Vendor 0x1d6b Product 0x0001
Bus# 2
`-Dev# 1 Vendor 0x1d6b Product 0x0001
Bus# 1
`-Dev# 1 Vendor 0x1d6b Product 0x0001
`-Dev# 3 Vendor 0x0a5c Product 0x4500
|-Dev# 4 Vendor 0x05ac Product 0x820f
|-Dev# 5 Vendor 0x05ac Product 0x820a
`-Dev# 6 Vendor 0x05ac Product 0x820b
Where the 820f is the Apple Bluetooth device and the 820a is the HID keyobard and the 820b is the HID mouse (both bluetooth).
I have tried to add 820f id to the hid2hci.c with switch_hidproxy but it didn't go through.
If I reset the hci device the lsusb output does not change (as was in the previous mac case). That's why I guess something has been changed in BT implementation and the previous method does not apply.
Now how can I find the way to switch the device in HCI? in other word how can I write (in case is necessary) the switch_imac procedure?
Regards
AxeL
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread* Re: [Bluez-users] FW: hid2hci for the new iMAC
2008-06-27 11:21 [Bluez-users] FW: hid2hci for the new iMAC Axel Dine
@ 2008-06-27 22:27 ` Marcel Holtmann
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Marcel Holtmann @ 2008-06-27 22:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: BlueZ users
Hi Axel,
> I've looked around but it seems there is no one having faced this problem: I have a new 24" iMac (Core 2 Duo) with integrated bluetooth (Broadcom 2045).
> Starting with Linux (2.6.24, bluez ver. 3.30) I am unable to switch the bluetooth HID device to HCI.
>
> This is my lsusb:
>
> root@uranus:~# lsusb -t
> Bus# 7
> `-Dev# 1 Vendor 0x1d6b Product 0x0002
> `-Dev# 2 Vendor 0x05ac Product 0x8502
> Bus# 6
> `-Dev# 1 Vendor 0x1d6b Product 0x0002
> Bus# 5
> `-Dev# 1 Vendor 0x1d6b Product 0x0001
> `-Dev# 2 Vendor 0x05ac Product 0x8242
> Bus# 4
> `-Dev# 1 Vendor 0x1d6b Product 0x0001
> Bus# 3
> `-Dev# 1 Vendor 0x1d6b Product 0x0001
> Bus# 2
> `-Dev# 1 Vendor 0x1d6b Product 0x0001
> Bus# 1
> `-Dev# 1 Vendor 0x1d6b Product 0x0001
> `-Dev# 3 Vendor 0x0a5c Product 0x4500
> |-Dev# 4 Vendor 0x05ac Product 0x820f
> |-Dev# 5 Vendor 0x05ac Product 0x820a
> `-Dev# 6 Vendor 0x05ac Product 0x820b
>
> Where the 820f is the Apple Bluetooth device and the 820a is the HID keyobard and the 820b is the HID mouse (both bluetooth).
>
> I have tried to add 820f id to the hid2hci.c with switch_hidproxy but it didn't go through.
>
> If I reset the hci device the lsusb output does not change (as was in the previous mac case). That's why I guess something has been changed in BT implementation and the previous method does not apply.
>
> Now how can I find the way to switch the device in HCI? in other word how can I write (in case is necessary) the switch_imac procedure?
try "modprobe hci_usb reset=1". And please send us the content
of /proc/bus/usb/devices and what lsusb tells you.
Regards
Marcel
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* Re: [Bluez-users] FW: hid2hci for the new iMAC
@ 2008-07-01 4:57 Axel Dine
2008-07-01 5:14 ` Marcel Holtmann
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Axel Dine @ 2008-07-01 4:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bluez-users
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Hi Marcel,
> try "modprobe hci_usb reset=1". And please send us the content
> of /proc/bus/usb/devices and what lsusb tells you.
inserting the reset on the module option works, meaning that I am able to perform hci scan
and associate keyboard and mouse.
Here is:
$ hcitool con
Connections:
> ACL 00:XX:XX:XX:XX:99 handle 12 state 1 lm MASTER
> ACL 00:XX:XX:XX:XX:2D handle 11 state 1 lm MASTER
I wonder if a switch from hid to hci is just less "aggressive" than an adapter reset.
Furthermore I noticed that if I just restart the computer in Linux the adapter does not switch
back in HID mode at the next reboot, I have to perform a complete shut down and this way works.
Is it normal?
Anyway please find attached the devices file and the lsusb output.
I have also attached the USB bus probe report from MAC OS where the Bluetooth device is in HCI mode.
Regards
AxeL
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Bus 007 Device 002: ID 05ac:8502 Apple, Inc.
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 005 Device 002: ID 05ac:8242 Apple, Inc.
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 004: ID 05ac:820f Apple, Inc.
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0a5c:4500 Broadcom Corp.
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
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* Re: [Bluez-users] FW: hid2hci for the new iMAC
2008-07-01 4:57 Axel Dine
@ 2008-07-01 5:14 ` Marcel Holtmann
2008-07-01 15:57 ` Axel Dine
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Marcel Holtmann @ 2008-07-01 5:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: BlueZ users
Hi Axel,
> > try "modprobe hci_usb reset=1". And please send us the content
> > of /proc/bus/usb/devices and what lsusb tells you.
>
> inserting the reset on the module option works, meaning that I am able to perform hci scan
> and associate keyboard and mouse.
>
> Here is:
> $ hcitool con
> Connections:
> > ACL 00:XX:XX:XX:XX:99 handle 12 state 1 lm MASTER
> > ACL 00:XX:XX:XX:XX:2D handle 11 state 1 lm MASTER
>
> I wonder if a switch from hid to hci is just less "aggressive" than an adapter reset.
> Furthermore I noticed that if I just restart the computer in Linux the adapter does not switch
> back in HID mode at the next reboot, I have to perform a complete shut down and this way works.
> Is it normal?
this is how HID Proxy from Broadcom works. The CSR stuff works
different, but that's about it. I have to modify the hci_usb driver to
include a quirk for this device and then we are good.
Regards
Marcel
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