[Bluez-users] Problem with Logitech MX 900 and Apple keyboard

[Bluez-users] Problem with Logitech MX 900 and Apple keyboard

[Matias Pablo Brutti]

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I'm running Mandrake 10.0 official with a 2.6.3-7 ... I just bougth a MX900=
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and the apple bluetooth keyboard .. the mouse ... was working when I=20
plugged .. like if was a plug and play devide . I didn't have to install=20
anything .. although .. i did not have any bluetooth installatin and if I=20
serch for bluetooth devices . it says that I have no devides .. I'm pretty=
=20
new on the subject .. and I think I have to load modules to the kernel ..=20
which ones should I load for my Logitech hub .. so It will be able to=20
recognize all my bluetooth .. When I try to start bthid it says that I have=
=20
no uimput .. or some modules .. what should I do .. or where should I read =
=2E.=20
to get my thing working ... I really like bluetooth .. and I would like to=
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work on linux too=20
if you need more info so you can help please email me ...
Thanks a lot=20

Matias P. Brutti=20
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Re: [Bluez-users] Problem with Logitech MX 900 and Apple keyboard

[Nicholas A. Preyß]

On  0, Matias Pablo Brutti <matiasbrutti@ciudad.com.ar> wrote:
> I'm running Mandrake 10.0 official with a 2.6.3-7 ... I just bougth a MX900 
> and the apple bluetooth keyboard .. the mouse ... was working when I 
> plugged .. like if was a plug and play devide . I didn't have to install 
> anything .. although .. i did not have any bluetooth installatin and if I 
> serch for bluetooth devices . it says that I have no devides .. I'm pretty 
> new on the subject .. and I think I have to load modules to the kernel .. 
> which ones should I load for my Logitech hub .. so It will be able to 
> recognize all my bluetooth .. When I try to start bthid it says that I have 
> no uimput .. or some modules .. what should I do .. or where should I read .. 
> to get my thing working ... I really like bluetooth .. and I would like to 
> work on linux too 
> if you need more info so you can help please email me ...
> Thanks a lot 

It sounds like your bluetooth chip is equipped with a hid proxy. 
Look here:
http://www.holtmann.org/linux/bluetooth/hid.html
Look in the CVS "bluez/utils2/hid/" there is a hid service utility.

nicholas


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Re: [Bluez-users] Problem with Logitech MX 900 and Apple keyboard

[Matias Pablo Brutti]

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On Thursday 29 April 2004 06:36, Nicholas A. Prey=DF wrote:
> On  0, Matias Pablo Brutti <matiasbrutti@ciudad.com.ar> wrote:
> > I'm running Mandrake 10.0 official with a 2.6.3-7 ... I just bougth a
> > MX900 and the apple bluetooth keyboard .. the mouse ... was working when
> > I plugged .. like if was a plug and play devide . I didn't have to
> > install anything .. although .. i did not have any bluetooth installatin
> > and if I serch for bluetooth devices . it says that I have no devides ..
> > I'm pretty new on the subject .. and I think I have to load modules to
> > the kernel .. which ones should I load for my Logitech hub .. so It will
> > be able to recognize all my bluetooth .. When I try to start bthid it
> > says that I have no uimput .. or some modules .. what should I do .. or
> > where should I read .. to get my thing working ... I really like
> > bluetooth .. and I would like to work on linux too
> > if you need more info so you can help please email me ...
> > Thanks a lot
>
> It sounds like your bluetooth chip is equipped with a hid proxy.
> Look here:
> http://www.holtmann.org/linux/bluetooth/hid.html
> Look in the CVS "bluez/utils2/hid/" there is a hid service utility.
>
> nicholas
>
>
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Thanks for.. the info is very helpful Now I understand a little more on the=
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HID implementation . that should be step 2  I think .. .. the problems .. i=
s=20
that ... I haven been able to figure out .. step one . load some module . s=
o=20
when I do hcitool scan .... or  use some tool for scanning .  It will=20
actually appear something . rigth now .. nothing appears not even the mouse=
=20
that is working ...=20
Thanks a lot . Nicholas . the info was extremelly helpful .. now I get a lo=
t=20
more than before .. :) =20

Matias P Brutti
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Re: [Bluez-users] Problem with Logitech MX 900 and Apple keyboard

[Nicholas A. Preyss]

On  0, Matias Pablo Brutti <matiasbrutti@ciudad.com.ar> wrote:
> On Thursday 29 April 2004 06:36, Nicholas A. Preyß wrote:
> > On  0, Matias Pablo Brutti <matiasbrutti@ciudad.com.ar> wrote:
> > > I'm running Mandrake 10.0 official with a 2.6.3-7 ... I just bougth a
> > > MX900 and the apple bluetooth keyboard .. the mouse ... was working when
> > > I plugged .. like if was a plug and play devide . I didn't have to
> > > install anything .. although .. i did not have any bluetooth installatin
> > > and if I serch for bluetooth devices . it says that I have no devides ..
> > > I'm pretty new on the subject .. and I think I have to load modules to
> > > the kernel .. which ones should I load for my Logitech hub .. so It will
> > > be able to recognize all my bluetooth .. When I try to start bthid it
> > > says that I have no uimput .. or some modules .. what should I do .. or
> > > where should I read .. to get my thing working ... I really like
> > > bluetooth .. and I would like to work on linux too
> > > if you need more info so you can help please email me ...
> >
> > It sounds like your bluetooth chip is equipped with a hid proxy.
> > Look here:
> > http://www.holtmann.org/linux/bluetooth/hid.html
> > Look in the CVS "bluez/utils2/hid/" there is a hid service utility.
> 
> Thanks for.. the info is very helpful Now I understand a little more on the 
> HID implementation . that should be step 2  I think .. .. the problems .. is 
> that ... I haven been able to figure out .. step one . load some module . so 
> when I do hcitool scan .... or  use some tool for scanning .  It will 
> actually appear something . rigth now .. nothing appears not even the mouse 
> that is working ... 
> Thanks a lot . Nicholas . the info was extremelly helpful .. now I get a lot 
> more than before .. :)

I have no clue which of your problems are solved, but at least you seem
more happy :). Maybe you can give me a some more consistent and ordered summary 
of what problems you still face. And we will be glad to help you.

nicholas

P.S.: Output of lsmod and hciconfig would be helpful. 


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Re: [Bluez-users] Problem with Logitech MX 900 and Apple keyboard

[Matias Pablo Brutti]

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On Thursday 29 April 2004 17:52, Nicholas A. Preyss wrote:
> On  0, Matias Pablo Brutti <matiasbrutti@ciudad.com.ar> wrote:
> > On Thursday 29 April 2004 06:36, Nicholas A. Prey=DF wrote:
> > > On  0, Matias Pablo Brutti <matiasbrutti@ciudad.com.ar> wrote:
> > > > I'm running Mandrake 10.0 official with a 2.6.3-7 ... I just bougth=
 a
> > > > MX900 and the apple bluetooth keyboard .. the mouse ... was working
> > > > when I plugged .. like if was a plug and play devide . I didn't have
> > > > to install anything .. although .. i did not have any bluetooth
> > > > installatin and if I serch for bluetooth devices . it says that I
> > > > have no devides .. I'm pretty new on the subject .. and I think I
> > > > have to load modules to the kernel .. which ones should I load for =
my
> > > > Logitech hub .. so It will be able to recognize all my bluetooth ..
> > > > When I try to start bthid it says that I have no uimput .. or some
> > > > modules .. what should I do .. or where should I read .. to get my
> > > > thing working ... I really like bluetooth .. and I would like to wo=
rk
> > > > on linux too
> > > > if you need more info so you can help please email me ...
> > >
> > > It sounds like your bluetooth chip is equipped with a hid proxy.
> > > Look here:
> > > http://www.holtmann.org/linux/bluetooth/hid.html
> > > Look in the CVS "bluez/utils2/hid/" there is a hid service utility.
> >
> > Thanks for.. the info is very helpful Now I understand a little more on
> > the HID implementation . that should be step 2  I think .. .. the
> > problems .. is that ... I haven been able to figure out .. step one .
> > load some module . so when I do hcitool scan .... or  use some tool for
> > scanning .  It will actually appear something . rigth now .. nothing
> > appears not even the mouse that is working ...
> > Thanks a lot . Nicholas . the info was extremelly helpful .. now I get a
> > lot more than before .. :)
>
> I have no clue which of your problems are solved, but at least you seem
> more happy :). Maybe you can give me a some more consistent and ordered
> summary of what problems you still face. And we will be glad to help you.
>
> nicholas
>
> P.S.: Output of lsmod and hciconfig would be helpful.
>
>
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Hello Nicholas:

Here goes a list of the thing I have been trying to do lately=20

1) I install my MX900 on the PC and it staterd working perfectly .. with no=
=20
need of seetup or anything .

2) I installed all the Bluez-liz and Bluez-utlis ....

3) I try to do some of the hepful how-to in the bluez website but won't wor=
k=20

4) I realice that I have no modules configure to make it work with the bthi=
d=20
that says that I need uimput .. becuase in the syslogs says that I cannot=20
find uimput module or device ..=20

5) you email for the first time and everything for part 2 whichi will be th=
e=20
actual discovery and configuration of the devices with their addresses .. e=
tc=20
using HID ..=20

6) I have no idea how to make apple wireless keyboard to work .. ;)

here goes a buncho of outputs . hopefully it will help=20

Thanks a lot again !!!!!!!! really apreaciate your help guys !!!=20


[root@ShuttleX bluetooth]# lsmod
Module =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Size =A0Used by
ppdev =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010400 =A00
isofs =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A035804 =A00
zlib_inflate =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 23648 =A01 isofs
udf =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A098756 =A00
appletalk =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A040272 =A02
ax25 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 66020 =A02
ipx =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A033220 =A02
sg =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 40028 =A00
sr_mod =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 18116 =A00
parport_pc =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 34304 =A01
lp =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 13256 =A00
parport =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A041032 =A03 ppdev,parport_pc,lp
md5 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4864 =A01
ipv6 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0251392 =A012
rfcomm =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 39288 =A00
l2cap =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A025888 =A03 rfcomm
bluetooth =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A050308 =A04 rfcomm,l2cap
snd-seq-oss =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A033568 =A00
snd-seq-midi-event =A0 =A0 =A08704 =A01 snd-seq-oss
snd-seq =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A055696 =A04 snd-seq-oss,snd-seq-midi-=
event
snd-pcm-oss =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A053316 =A00
snd-mixer-oss =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A019008 =A01 snd-pcm-oss
snd-intel8x0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 34440 =A01
snd-ac97-codec =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 59588 =A01 snd-intel8x0
snd-pcm =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A097440 =A02 snd-pcm-oss,snd-intel8x0
snd-timer =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A026660 =A02 snd-seq,snd-pcm
gameport =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A05664 =A01 snd-intel8x0
snd-page-alloc =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 12996 =A02 snd-intel8x0,snd-pcm
snd-mpu401-uart =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 8320 =A01 snd-intel8x0
snd-rawmidi =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A025248 =A01 snd-mpu401-uart
snd-seq-device =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A09032 =A03 snd-seq-oss,snd-seq,snd-rawmidi
snd =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A055492 =A014=20
snd-seq-oss,snd-seq-midi-event,snd-seq,snd-pcm-oss,snd-mixer-oss,snd-intel8=
x0,snd-ac97-codec,snd-pcm,snd-timer,snd-mpu401-uart,snd-rawmidi,snd-seq-dev=
ice
soundcore =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010560 =A01 snd
af_packet =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A022632 =A02
raw =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 8640 =A01
ide-floppy =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 19776 =A00
ide-tape =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 36752 =A00
ide-cd =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 41764 =A00
cdrom =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A038272 =A02 sr_mod,ide-cd
floppy =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 61620 =A00
8139too =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A025760 =A00
mii =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5984 =A01 8139too
evdev =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A010496 =A00
tsdev =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 8160 =A00
usbmouse =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A06208 =A00
hid =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A055360 =A00
ohci1394 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 35684 =A00
ieee1394 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0290480 =A01 ohci1394
prism2_usb =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 78116 =A00
p80211 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 32912 =A01 prism2_usb
nls_iso8859-1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 4896 =A01
nls_cp850 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 5728 =A01
vfat =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 15680 =A01
fat =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A047360 =A01 vfat
supermount =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 39856 =A01
intel-agp =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A018364 =A01
agpgart =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A032460 =A01 intel-agp
usb-storage =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A074596 =A00
quickcam =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0110880 =A00
videodev =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 10592 =A01 quickcam
ehci-hcd =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 25572 =A00
uhci-hcd =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 31856 =A00
usbcore =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 103228 =A09=20
usbmouse,hid,prism2_usb,usb-storage,quickcam,ehci-hcd,uhci-hcd
rtc =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A013640 =A00
ext3 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0114216 =A04
jbd =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A061976 =A01 ext3
sd_mod =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 17696 =A00
ata_piix =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A08836 =A00
libata =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 40256 =A01 ata_piix,[permanent]
scsi_mod =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0117104 =A05 sg,sr_mod,usb-storage,sd_mo=
d,libata





[root@ShuttleX bluetooth]# hciconfig

[root@ShuttleX bluetooth]# hciconfig

[root@ShuttleX bluetooth]# hciattach
hciattach - HCI UART driver initialization utility
Usage:
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 hciattach [-n] [-p] [-b] [-t timeout] [-s initial_speed] <t=
ty> <type |=20
id> [speed] [flow]
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 hciattach -l
[root@ShuttleX bluetooth]# hcidump
HCIDump - HCI packet analyzer ver 1.8
Can't attach to device hci0. No such device(19)
[root@ShuttleX bluetooth]# hcitool inq
Inquiring ...
Inquiry failed.: No such device
[root@ShuttleX bluetooth]# lsusb
Bus 005 Device 002: ID 07cc:0320 Carry Computer Eng., Co., Ltd
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 004 Device 002: ID 124a:168b
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 002 Device 003: ID 046d:c705 Logitech, Inc.
Bus 002 Device 002: ID 0451:2036 Texas Instruments, Inc. TUSB2036 Hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:0840 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Express
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000
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Re: [Bluez-users] Problem with Logitech MX 900 and Apple keyboard

[Nicholas A. Preyss]

On  0, Matias Pablo Brutti <matiasbrutti@ciudad.com.ar> wrote:
> On Thursday 29 April 2004 17:52, Nicholas A. Preyss wrote:
> > On  0, Matias Pablo Brutti <matiasbrutti@ciudad.com.ar> wrote:
> > > Thanks for.. the info is very helpful Now I understand a little more on
> > > the HID implementation . that should be step 2  I think .. .. the
> > > problems .. is that ... I haven been able to figure out .. step one .
> > > load some module . so when I do hcitool scan .... or  use some tool for
> > > scanning .  It will actually appear something . rigth now .. nothing
> > > appears not even the mouse that is working ...
> > > Thanks a lot . Nicholas . the info was extremelly helpful .. now I get a
> > > lot more than before .. :)
> >
> > I have no clue which of your problems are solved, but at least you seem
> > more happy :). Maybe you can give me a some more consistent and ordered
> > summary of what problems you still face. And we will be glad to help you.
> 
> Here goes a list of the thing I have been trying to do lately 
> 
> 1) I install my MX900 on the PC and it staterd working perfectly .. with no 
> need of seetup or anything .

This is because the Host Controller implements the necessary subset of the upper
bluetooth layers and translates the HID bluetooth profile to a USB HID
profile. In HID mode there is no need for bluetooth related software on
the computer because, it doesn't even know anything of the bluetooth host 
controller. The computer sees just USB HID devices.

> 2) I installed all the Bluez-liz and Bluez-utlis ....

I have no hid bt devices, but i think you need libs2 and utils2 from
CVS. Then you need to switch the host controller from HID to HCI mode.
How this is done depends on the Host Controller, I think your Logitech
is CSR based so you need the hid2hci tool. 
After switching the mode you have a full featured bluetooth host
controller. Now you should load the matching hci module: hci_usb. The
mechanism of loading unfortunately varies, but if hci_usb isn't
autoloaded, then you can "modprobe hci_usb". Now there should be a hci0
device ("hciconfig hci0"). 

> 3) I try to do some of the hepful how-to in the bluez website but won't work 

> 4) I realice that I have no modules configure to make it work with the bthid 
> that says that I need uimput .. becuase in the syslogs says that I cannot 
> find uimput module or device .. 

So you might need create the device node for this device. Just search
the mailing list for command with the matching major/minor numbers. What
bthid you are using? You might take this as guide for getting it run:
http://www.bueche.ch/comp/mx900/mx900.html
Correct me if i am wrong.

nicholas


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Re: [Bluez-users] Problem with Logitech MX 900 and Apple keyboard

[Matias Pablo Brutti]

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Re: [Bluez-users] Problem with Logitech MX 900 and Apple keyboard

[Nicholas A. Preyss]

On  0, Matias Pablo Brutti <matiasbrutti@ciudad.com.ar> wrote:
> 	Sorry to bother you again ... I managed to get it recognice the mouse and the 
> keyboard .. and everythings looks .. pretty now ... I can see both .. devices 
> and their address . the problem starts when I try to connect .. with 
> bthid ... deamon ...  bthid -c <addrs> and ... it ask for a pin number .. and 
> never gets connected to the devices .. in the logs .. says ... " connection 
> failed" or permissiion denied" ... I managed to get them to actually be seen 
> but now they do not work ;) thats funny ji ji i j.

Take care of your "." key, i have the impression it feels a bit
overstressed. ;) (the keyboard whisperer)

Maybe you can run hcidump while trying to connect. And provide here the
output.


> one more thing .... if I try to execute the bthid  by Peter Klausler .... 
> still prints out in the logs that Can' find uimput devide .. and I have it 
> on .. /dev/misc/uinput .. that is another .. big ???? for me .. 

The above refers to the bthid of bluez ? 
A "ls -lh /dev/misc/uinput" would be helfpul.

nicholas
P.S.: I am away the next few days, so you might need to wait or someone
else has to take care of you.


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