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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>
Cc: Gabor Gombas <gombasg@sztaki.hu>, Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bluez-devel@lists.sourceforge.net,
	Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>,
	ebiederm@xmission.com
Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] Oops involving RFCOMM and sysfs
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 01:21:40 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1abnikpuz.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47819079.3000606@gmail.com> (Tejun Heo's message of "Mon, 07 Jan 2008 11:37:45 +0900")

Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com> writes:

> Hello,
>
> Tejun Heo wrote:
>> Al Viro wrote:
>>> On Sat, Jan 05, 2008 at 11:30:25PM +0900, Tejun Heo wrote:
>>>>> Assuming that this is what we get, everything looks explainable - we
>>>>> have sysfs_rename_dir() calling sysfs_get_dentry() while the parent
>>>>> gets evicted.  We don't have any exclusion, so while we are playing
>>>>> silly buggers with lookups in sysfs_get_dentry() we have parent become
>>>>> negative; the rest is obvious...
>>>> That part of code is walking down the sysfs tree from the s_root of
>>>> sysfs hierarchy and on each step parent is held using dget() while being
>>>> referenced, so I don't think they can turn negative there.
>>> Turn?  Just what stops you from getting a negative (and unhashed) from
>>> lookup_one_noperm() and on the next iteration being buggered on mutex_lock()?
>> 
>> Right, I haven't thought about that.  When sysfs_get_dentry() is called,
>> @sd is always valid so unless there was existing negative dentry, lookup
>> is guaranteed to return positive dentry, but by populating dcache with
>> negative dentry before a node is created, things can go wrong.  I don't
>> think that's what's going on here tho.  If that was the case, the
>> while() loop looking up the next sd to lookup (@cur) should have blown
>> up as negative dentry will have NULL d_fsdata which doesn't match any sd.
>> 
>> I guess what's needed here is d_revalidate() as other distributed
>> filesystems do.  I'll test whether this can be actually triggered and
>> prepare a fix.  Thanks a lot for pointing out the problem.
>
> This can't happen because lookup of non-existent entry doesn't create a
> negative dentry.  The new dentry is never hashed and killed after lookup
> failure, the above scenario can't happen.
>
> That said, the mechanism is a bit too fragile.  sysfs currently ensures
> that dentry/inode point to the associated sysfs_dirent.  This is mainly
> remanent of conversion from previous VFS based implementation.  I think
> the right thing to do here is to make sysfs behave like other proper
> distributed filesystems using d_revalidate.

Huh?  We still need something like sysfs_get_dentry to find the dentries
for the rename or move operation.  So we can call d_move.  

Further we should be talking about sysfs_move_dir not sysfs_rename_dir
as only the networking code calls sysfs_rename_dir.  Not that it is
significantly different.

I think I saw a change in lock ordering recently to help distributed
filesystems, and maybe that will simplify some of this.

Anyway I figure if I am to understand this I better go look and see if
I can find the start of this thread.  I don't have a clue
where we are blowing up.

Eric

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-07  8:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-28 17:32 [Bluez-devel] Oops involving RFCOMM and sysfs Gabor Gombas
2007-12-29  8:07 ` Dave Young
2008-01-02 14:48   ` Gabor Gombas
     [not found]   ` <20080102151642.GA7273@boogie.lpds.sztaki.hu>
     [not found]     ` <20080103131620.GA16307@boogie.lpds.sztaki.hu>
2008-01-04  1:05       ` Dave Young
2008-01-07  8:07         ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07 14:10         ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-05  7:50     ` Al Viro
2008-01-05 14:30       ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-05 19:45         ` Al Viro
2008-01-06  2:07           ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-06  2:18             ` Al Viro
2008-01-06  2:54               ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-06  3:35                 ` Al Viro
2008-01-07  2:37             ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07  8:21               ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2008-01-07  9:17                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07  9:18                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07  9:22                     ` Al Viro
2008-01-07 10:33                       ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-01-07 14:13       ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-07 15:24         ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07 21:00           ` Gabor Gombas
     [not found]             ` <47834593.1000506@gmail.com>
2008-01-08 13:32               ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-09  9:16                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-10  1:11                   ` Dave Young
2008-01-11 23:09                     ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-10 10:15                   ` Gabor Gombas

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