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From: ebiederm@xmission.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To: Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk>
Cc: Gabor Gombas <gombasg@sztaki.hu>, Tejun Heo <htejun@gmail.com>,
	Greg KH <greg@kroah.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, bluez-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bluez-devel] Oops involving RFCOMM and sysfs
Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2008 03:33:38 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m1myrhkjr1.fsf@ebiederm.dsl.xmission.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20080107092256.GX27894@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> (Al Viro's message of "Mon, 7 Jan 2008 09:22:56 +0000")

Al Viro <viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk> writes:

> On Mon, Jan 07, 2008 at 06:18:21PM +0900, Tejun Heo wrote:
>> Tejun Heo wrote:
>> > Eric W. Biederman wrote:
>> >>> That said, the mechanism is a bit too fragile.  sysfs currently ensures
>> >>> that dentry/inode point to the associated sysfs_dirent.  This is mainly
>> >>> remanent of conversion from previous VFS based implementation.  I think
>> >>> the right thing to do here is to make sysfs behave like other proper
>> >>> distributed filesystems using d_revalidate.
>> >> Huh?  We still need something like sysfs_get_dentry to find the dentries
>> >> for the rename or move operation.  So we can call d_move.  
>> > 
>> > Ah... right.  Thanks.  :-)
>> 
>> On the second thought, can't those too be dealt with d_revalidate?
>
> FVO "dealt with" as pleasant and efficient as using coarse whetstone
> to deal with caries.

Or to say it another way.  The linux VFS requires dentries to be
preserved and used as long as we can.  dropping them early causes
some weird nasties to show up, in particular it totally messes up
mounting other filesystems on top.

Eric

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  reply	other threads:[~2008-01-07 10:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-12-28 17:32 [Bluez-devel] Oops involving RFCOMM and sysfs Gabor Gombas
2007-12-29  8:07 ` Dave Young
2008-01-02 14:48   ` Gabor Gombas
     [not found]   ` <20080102151642.GA7273@boogie.lpds.sztaki.hu>
     [not found]     ` <20080103131620.GA16307@boogie.lpds.sztaki.hu>
2008-01-04  1:05       ` Dave Young
2008-01-07  8:07         ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07 14:10         ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-05  7:50     ` Al Viro
2008-01-05 14:30       ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-05 19:45         ` Al Viro
2008-01-06  2:07           ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-06  2:18             ` Al Viro
2008-01-06  2:54               ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-06  3:35                 ` Al Viro
2008-01-07  2:37             ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07  8:21               ` Eric W. Biederman
2008-01-07  9:17                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07  9:18                   ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07  9:22                     ` Al Viro
2008-01-07 10:33                       ` Eric W. Biederman [this message]
2008-01-07 14:13       ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-07 15:24         ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-07 21:00           ` Gabor Gombas
     [not found]             ` <47834593.1000506@gmail.com>
2008-01-08 13:32               ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-09  9:16                 ` Tejun Heo
2008-01-10  1:11                   ` Dave Young
2008-01-11 23:09                     ` Gabor Gombas
2008-01-10 10:15                   ` Gabor Gombas

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