From: Goldwyn Rodrigues <rgoldwyn@suse.de>
To: Filipe Manana <fdmanana@gmail.com>
Cc: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>,
"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-btrfs <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>,
Johannes Thumshirn <Johannes.Thumshirn@wdc.com>,
Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
dsterba@suse.cz
Subject: Re: [PATCH] iomap: Return zero in case of unsuccessful pagecache invalidation before DIO
Date: Fri, 29 May 2020 07:45:10 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200529124510.rqpd5nfivafiswiw@fiona> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL3q7H5cp8joqHnS8rtPBBEQyYw9L0KbRNCQwFfKz1pD-tZvwQ@mail.gmail.com>
On 12:50 29/05, Filipe Manana wrote:
> On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 12:31 PM Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 11:55:33AM +0100, Filipe Manana wrote:
> > > On Fri, May 29, 2020 at 1:23 AM Darrick J. Wong <darrick.wong@oracle.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 02:21:03PM -0500, Goldwyn Rodrigues wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Filesystems such as btrfs are unable to guarantee page invalidation
> > > > > because pages could be locked as a part of the extent. Return zero
> > > >
> > > > Locked for what? filemap_write_and_wait_range should have just cleaned
> > > > them off.
> > >
> > > Yes, it will be confusing even for someone more familiar with btrfs.
> > > The changelog could be more detailed to make it clear what's happening and why.
> > >
> > > So what happens:
> > >
> > > 1) iomap_dio_rw() calls filemap_write_and_wait_range().
> > > That starts delalloc for all dirty pages in the range and then
> > > waits for writeback to complete.
> > > This is enough for most filesystems at least (if not all except btrfs).
> > >
> > > 2) However, in btrfs once writeback finishes, a job is queued to run
> > > on a dedicated workqueue, to execute the function
> > > btrfs_finish_ordered_io().
> > > So that job will be run after filemap_write_and_wait_range() returns.
> > > That function locks the file range (using a btrfs specific data
> > > structure), does a bunch of things (updating several btrees), and then
> > > unlocks the file range.
> > >
> > > 3) While iomap calls invalidate_inode_pages2_range(), which ends up
> > > calling the btrfs callback btfs_releasepage(),
> > > btrfs_finish_ordered_io() is running and has the file range locked
> > > (this is what Goldwyn means by "pages could be locked", which is
> > > confusing because it's not about any locked struct page).
> > >
> > > 4) Because the file range is locked, btrfs_releasepage() returns 0
> > > (page can't be released), this happens in the helper function
> > > try_release_extent_state().
> > > Any page in that range is not dirty nor under writeback anymore
> > > and, in fact, btrfs_finished_ordered_io() doesn't do anything with the
> > > pages, it's only updating metadata.
> > >
> > > btrfs_releasepage() in this case could release the pages, but
> > > there are other contextes where the file range is locked, the pages
> > > are still not dirty and not under writeback, where this would not be
> > > safe to do.
> >
> > Isn't this the bug, though? Rather than returning "page can't be
> > released", shouldn't ->releasepage sleep on the extent state, at least
> > if the GFP mask indicates you can sleep?
>
> Goldwyn mentioned in another thread that he had tried that with the
> following patch:
>
> https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/11275063/
>
> But he mentioned it didn't work though, caused some locking problems.
> I don't know the details and I haven't tried the patchset yet.
> Goldwyn?
>
Yes, direct I/O would wait for extent bits to be unlocked forever and hang.
I think it was against an fsync call, but I don't remember. In the light
of new developments, I would pursue this further. This should be valid
even in the current (before iomap patches) source.
--
Goldwyn
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-05-29 12:45 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-05-28 19:21 [PATCH] iomap: Return zero in case of unsuccessful pagecache invalidation before DIO Goldwyn Rodrigues
2020-05-29 0:23 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-05-29 10:55 ` Filipe Manana
2020-05-29 11:31 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-05-29 11:50 ` Filipe Manana
2020-05-29 12:45 ` Goldwyn Rodrigues [this message]
2020-06-01 15:16 ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2020-06-03 11:23 ` Filipe Manana
2020-06-03 11:32 ` Filipe Manana
2020-06-03 19:02 ` Darrick J. Wong
2020-06-03 19:10 ` Filipe Manana
2020-06-03 19:18 ` Matthew Wilcox
2020-06-03 21:07 ` Goldwyn Rodrigues
2020-06-04 13:55 ` David Sterba
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