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From: Qu Wenruo <quwenruo.btrfs@gmx.com>
To: Su Yue <suy.fnst@cn.fujitsu.com>, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 06/17] btrfs-progs: lowmem check: introduce force_cow_in_new_chunk()
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2018 15:44:16 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <48c2d3e9-7b9b-f133-64cf-cb69ca0da763@gmx.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0804626a-eaa4-9958-c4bc-27c16f596b30@cn.fujitsu.com>


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On 2017年12月27日 09:11, Su Yue wrote:
> 
> 
[snip]
>>>>
>>>> Manually allocation in advance has its advantage, like we can determine
>>>> if there is enough space for new chunk instead of checking every return
>>>> value with ENOSPC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> However in current case, your metadata usage is limited to the new
>>>> chunk
>>>> only.
>>>> If there extent tree has quite a lot of problem, and the chunk
>>>> allocated
>>>> is small (if using single profile and small fs), it can easily hit
>>>> ENOSPC again, since btrfs doesn't allocate new chunk for later metadata
>>>> write.
>>>>
>>> SAD. After I tried to implement above nice idea, infinite recursive
>>> brings me back to the reality.
>>>
>>> Here is the reason why btrfs_reserve_extent can not allocate chunk
>>> by itself if ENOSPC hints:
>>>
>>> btrfs_cow_block
>>> ...
>>>    btrfs_reserve_extent
>>>      btrfs_alloc_chunk
>>>        btrfs_alloc_dev_extent
>>>          btrfs_insert_empty_item
>>>            ...
>>>             btrfs_cow_block
>>
>> The order is just wrong.
>>
>> We should first check for the new chunk space, not doing the insert
>> right now.
>>
>> I'll take over the work if you're OK with it.
>>
> OK. Thanks a lot.
> 
> Thanks,
> Su

Well, even after my preparation patches, the situation is still much
complex than my expectation.

Yes, We could delay chunk/extent tree modification so newer chunk
allocation can be used for extent tree CoW.


But a lot of other infrastructure can't handle it well
The main problem is, we break a lot of ctree.c assumption.

For case like a normal tree CoW:

btrfs_search_slot(root=extent_root)
|- btrfs_cow_block()
   |- btrfs_alloc_tree_block()
      |- btrfs_reserve_extent()
         |- btrfs_alloc_chunk()
            |- insert block group item
               *CoW* extent tree

In above case, extent_root changed even before we cow the extent root.
And will cause later (b == root->node) check fail and trigger a SEGV.

To really address it, we may need a large code rework with dynamic chunk
allocation in mind, which seems to expensive for a rarely used case.

So in short, I'm totally wrong and too optimistic about the feature.
Please use the original way, which is to alloc a new meta chunk manually.

Thanks,
Qu


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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-09  7:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-20  4:57 [PATCH v2 00/17] btrfs-progs: lowmem check: avoid extents overwrite Su Yue
2017-12-20  4:57 ` [PATCH v2 01/17] btrfs-progs: lowmem check: release path in repair_extent_data_item() Su Yue
2017-12-20  4:57 ` [PATCH v2 02/17] btrfs-progs: lowmem check: record returned errors after walk_down_tree_v2() Su Yue
2017-12-29 11:17   ` Nikolay Borisov
2018-01-02  1:44     ` Su Yue
2018-01-02  1:50     ` Su Yue
2017-12-20  4:57 ` [PATCH v2 03/17] btrfs-progs: lowmem check: assign @parent early in repair_extent_data_item() Su Yue
2017-12-20  4:57 ` [PATCH v2 04/17] btrfs-progs: lowmem check: exclude extents of metadata blocks Su Yue
2017-12-20  4:57 ` [PATCH v2 05/17] btrfs-progs: lowmem check: introduce modify_block_groups_cache() Su Yue
2017-12-20  5:38   ` Qu Wenruo
2017-12-20  4:57 ` [PATCH v2 06/17] btrfs-progs: lowmem check: introduce force_cow_in_new_chunk() Su Yue
2017-12-20  5:41   ` Qu Wenruo
2017-12-20  8:21     ` Su Yue
2017-12-20  8:37       ` Qu Wenruo
2017-12-21  6:51         ` Qu Wenruo
2017-12-21  7:06           ` Su Yue
2017-12-21  7:09           ` Su Yue
2017-12-21  7:12             ` Qu Wenruo
2017-12-26  8:17               ` Su Yue
2017-12-26 10:28                 ` Qu Wenruo
2017-12-27  1:11                   ` Su Yue
2018-01-09  7:44                     ` Qu Wenruo [this message]
2017-12-20  4:57 ` [PATCH v2 07/17] btrfs-progs: lowmem check: introduce try_avoid_extents_overwrite() Su Yue
2017-12-20  5:46   ` Qu Wenruo
2017-12-20  4:57 ` [PATCH v2 08/17] btrfs-progs: lowmem check: exclude extents if init-extent-tree in lowmem Su Yue
2017-12-20  4:57 ` [PATCH v2 09/17] btrfs-progs: lowmem check: start to remove parameters @trans " Su Yue
2017-12-20  5:51   ` Qu Wenruo
2017-12-20  4:57 ` [PATCH v2 10/17] btrfs-progs: lowmem check: remove parameter @trans of delete_extent_item() Su Yue
2017-12-20  4:57 ` [PATCH v2 11/17] btrfs-progs: lowmem check: remove parameter @trans of repair_chunk_item() Su Yue
2017-12-20  4:57 ` [PATCH v2 12/17] btrfs-progs: lowmem check: remove parameter @trans of repair_extent_item() Su Yue
2017-12-20  4:57 ` [PATCH v2 13/17] btrfs-progs: lowmem check: remove parameter @trans of check_leaf_items() Su Yue
2017-12-20  4:57 ` [PATCH v2 14/17] btrfs-progs: lowmem check: remove parameter @trans of repair_tree_back_ref() Su Yue
2017-12-20  4:57 ` [PATCH v2 15/17] btrfs-progs: lowmem check: remove parameter @trans of check_btrfs_root() Su Yue
2017-12-20  4:57 ` [PATCH v2 16/17] btrfs-progs: lowmem check: introduce repair_block_accounting() Su Yue
2017-12-20  4:57 ` [PATCH v2 17/17] btrfs-progs: lowmem check: end of removing parameters @trans in lowmem Su Yue
2017-12-20  5:59 ` [PATCH v2 00/17] btrfs-progs: lowmem check: avoid extents overwrite Qu Wenruo

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