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From: Austin S Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: Hugo Mills <hugo@carfax.org.uk>,
	Btrfs mailing list <linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Bug/regression: Read-only mount not read-only
Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2015 11:00:32 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <565C72A0.4030002@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151130152837.GB8775@carfax.org.uk>

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On 2015-11-30 10:28, Hugo Mills wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 09:59:40AM -0500, Austin S Hemmelgarn wrote:
>> On 2015-11-28 08:46, Hugo Mills wrote:
>>>     We've just had someone on IRC with a problem mounting their FS. The
>>> main problem is that they've got a corrupt log tree. That isn't the
>>> subject of this email, though.
>>>
>>>     The issue I'd like to raise is that even with -oro as a point
>>> option, the FS is trying to replay the log tree. The dmesg output from
>>> mount -oro is at the end of the email.
>>>
>>>     Now, my memory, experience and understanding is that the FS
>>> doesn't, and shouldn't replay the log tree on a RO mount, because the
>>> FS should still be consistent even without the reply, and
>>> RO-means-actually-RO is possible and desirable. (Compared to a
>>> journalling FS, where journal replay is required for a consistent,
>>> usable FS).
>> This is exactly how it should behave (being able to say that a RO
>> mount is really RO (if atimes aren't enabled) is a huge selling
>> point).  On a side note, a properly designed journaling filesystem
>> _can_ be made to behave like this, but it makes the filesystem
>> _really_ slow if you don't have enough RAM to cache all the blocks
>> modified by the journal (because each block access has to check the
>> journal for modifications).
>>>
>>>     So, this looks to me like a regression that's come in somewhere.
>> I'm not sure that this ever worked the way it should.  It should be
>> fixed regardless of what state things were however.
>
>     I'm pretty sure it was like that at some point, because I've used
> it as a diagnostic tool: If you can mount OK with -oro, but not
> without, then the log tree is broken, and btrfs-zero-log can be used
> to good effect. (In fact, that's what I was trying to do with the OP
> when I spotted the issue).
Hmm, in that case, it looks like a bisection is in order, but that may 
be tough without a known broken filesystem image.  I would offer to try 
and bisect it myself, but I seem to have misplaced the scripts I had 
been using to automate testing, and I won't be able to take the time to 
look for them properly (and possibly re-write them) until this weekend.



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  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-30 16:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-28 13:46 Bug/regression: Read-only mount not read-only Hugo Mills
2015-11-30 14:59 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-11-30 15:28   ` Hugo Mills
2015-11-30 16:00     ` Austin S Hemmelgarn [this message]
2015-11-30 16:48 ` Chris Mason
2015-11-30 17:06   ` Hugo Mills
2015-12-01 19:00     ` Chris Mason
2015-12-01 19:05       ` Eric Sandeen
2015-12-02  6:25         ` Russell Coker
2015-12-02  9:06           ` Qu Wenruo
2015-12-02  9:23             ` Qu Wenruo
2015-12-02 16:54               ` Eric Sandeen
2015-12-02 17:48                 ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-12-02 18:53                   ` Hugo Mills
2015-12-02 22:48                   ` Eric Sandeen
2015-12-02 23:40                     ` Qu Wenruo
2015-12-02 23:51                       ` Hugo Mills
2015-12-03  6:44                         ` Duncan
2015-12-04 12:32                         ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-12-04 12:23                       ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-11-30 17:08   ` Austin S Hemmelgarn
2015-12-01  6:46   ` Qu Wenruo
2015-12-01 18:54     ` Chris Mason
2015-12-01 23:47       ` Qu Wenruo

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