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From: "Austin S. Hemmelgarn" <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
To: Duncan <1i5t5.duncan@cox.net>, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] btrfs: Introduce new mount option to disable tree log replay
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 07:12:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <56715518.8080808@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <pan$ecec5$9f9ca76c$f1c4eebd$1e31c111@cox.net>

On 2015-12-16 06:10, Duncan wrote:
> Qu Wenruo posted on Wed, 16 Dec 2015 09:36:23 +0800 as excerpted:
>
>> David Sterba wrote on 2015/12/14 18:32 +0100:
>>> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 10:34:06AM +0800, Qu Wenruo wrote:
>>>> Introduce a new mount option "nologreplay" to co-operate with "ro"
>>>> mount option to get real readonly mount, like "norecovery" in ext* and
>>>> xfs.
>>>>
>>>> Since the new parse_options() need to check new flags at remount time,
>>>> so add a new parameter for parse_options().
>>>>
>>>> Signed-off-by: Qu Wenruo <quwenruo@cn.fujitsu.com>
>>>> Reviewed-by: Chandan Rajendra <chandan@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
>>>> Tested-by: Austin S. Hemmelgarn <ahferroin7@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> I've read the discussions around the change and from the user's POV I'd
>>> suggest to add another mount option that would be just an alias for any
>>> mount options that would implement the 'hard-ro' semantics.
>>>
>>> Say it's called 'nowr'. Now it would imply 'nologreplay', but may cover
>>> more options in the future.
>>>
>>>    mount -o ro,nowr /dev/sdx /mnt
>>>
>>> would work when switching kernels.
>>>
>>>
>> That would be nice.
>>
>> I'd like to forward the idea/discussion to filesystem ml, not only btrfs
>> maillist.
>>
>> Such behavior should better be coordinated between all(at least xfs and
>> ext4 and btrfs) filesystems.
>>
>> One sad example is, we can't use 'norecovery' mount option to disable
>> log replay in btrfs, as there is 'recovery' mount option already.
>>
>> So I hope we can have a unified mount option between mainline
>> filesystems.
>
> FWIW, I was just reading the mount manpage in connection with a reply for
> a different thread, and noticed...
>
> mount (8) (from util-linux 2.27.1) says noload and norecovery are the
> same option, for ext3/4 at least.  It refers to the xfs (5) manpage, from
> xfsprogs, for xfs mount options, and that's not installed here, so I
> can't confirm noload for it, but it's there for ext3/4.
Unless it's undocumented, XFS doesn't have it (as much as I hate XFS, I 
have to have xfsprogs installed so that I can do recovery for the few 
systems at work that actually use it if the need arises).
>
> And noload doesn't have the namespace collision problem norecovery does
> on btrfs, so I'd strongly suggest using it, at least as an alias for
> whatever other btrfs-specific name we might choose.
I kind of agree with Christoph here.  I don't think that noload should 
be the what we actually use, although I do think having it as an alias 
for whatever name we end up using would be a good thing.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-12-16 12:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-10  2:34 [PATCH v3] btrfs: Introduce new mount option to disable tree log replay Qu Wenruo
2015-12-14 17:32 ` David Sterba
2015-12-14 17:50   ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2015-12-14 19:16     ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-14 19:33       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2015-12-14 19:44         ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-14 20:20           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2015-12-14 23:34             ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-15 13:31               ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2015-12-16 13:53     ` David Sterba
2015-12-14 19:11   ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-16  1:36   ` Qu Wenruo
2015-12-16  2:13     ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-16 11:10     ` Duncan
2015-12-16 11:45       ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-17  1:09         ` Duncan
2015-12-17  1:46           ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-16 12:12       ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn [this message]
2015-12-16 12:34         ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-16 12:57           ` Austin S. Hemmelgarn
2015-12-16 13:01             ` Christoph Anton Mitterer
2015-12-16 13:58     ` David Sterba

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