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From: Wolfgang Grandegger <wg@grandegger.com>
To: Marc Kleine-Budde <mkl@pengutronix.de>,
	"Jonas Mark (ST-FIR/ENG1)" <Mark.Jonas@de.bosch.com>,
	Andri Yngvason <andri.yngvason@marel.com>,
	"linux-can@vger.kernel.org" <linux-can@vger.kernel.org>
Cc: "hs@denx.de" <hs@denx.de>,
	"RUAN Tingquan (ST-FIR/ENG1-Zhu)" <Tingquan.Ruan@cn.bosch.com>,
	"ZHU Yi (ST-FIR/ENG1-Zhu)" <Yi.Zhu5@cn.bosch.com>
Subject: Re: flexcan missing error state transitions
Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2017 12:57:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <2ec91a72-49b2-ca43-9472-8f079b278c80@grandegger.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <71679863-5b47-faf2-ca44-27eb1abf16c6@pengutronix.de>

Am 22.08.2017 um 16:06 schrieb Marc Kleine-Budde:
> On 08/22/2017 03:50 PM, Jonas Mark (ST-FIR/ENG1) wrote:
>> Hello Andri,
>>
>>>> Which polling interval do you think would be appropriate? It
>>>> somehow has to be
>>> a reasonable trade-off between latency and CPU usage. That's a good
>>> question. I don't think that there is a really good answer to it.
>>> It would be nice to see intermittent state-transitions happening,
>>> so I would say as fast as possible without affecting CPU usage to a
>>> significant degree. The polling timer should not be a high
>>> resolution timer or anything that would preempt an rt task.
>>>
>>> This value could also depend on the bitrate as that will affect the
>>> rate at which the error-counter can change. E.g. on 125 k rate, you
>>> will receive at most one frame per 1 ms. This means that the error
>>> state will change at at least 64 ms intervals, so we would have to
>>> sample at 32 ms intervals to catch all the transitions. For 1 M
>>> this would be around 2 ms.
>>>
>>> Note that this is all somewhat speculative as I do not know exactly
>>> how fast the error counters are incremented/decremented.
>>
>> We agree that there is a sensible lower boundary for the polling
>> interval which depends on the bitrate. And there is a upper boundary
>> which depends on the application.
>>
>> We are currently thinking about whether it would be possible to do
>> the polling only in case the controller is actually experiencing
>> trouble.
> 
> Why not enable bus errors on broken controllers. Disable once a bus

Yes, that's what we have done in the past for Flexcan controller cores 
that do not have dedicated interrupt lines for state changes. We have 
introduced FLEXCAN_QUIRK_BROKEN_ERR_STATE for that purpose. It should 
work already with the current driver. Yi ZHU, have you tried that?

> error hits and re-enable them after a configurable timeout with a proper
> default. I have a patch somewhere, although it applies only against the
> pre rx-offload version of the driver.

And that would help to avoid the interrupt flooding problem.

Wolfgang.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-27 11:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-18  7:47 flexcan missing error state transitions ZHU Yi (ST-FIR/ENG1-Zhu)
2017-08-21 16:18 ` Andri Yngvason
2017-08-21 17:13   ` AW: " Jonas Mark (ST-FIR/ENG1)
2017-08-21 18:21     ` Andri Yngvason
2017-08-22 13:50       ` AW: " Jonas Mark (ST-FIR/ENG1)
2017-08-22 14:06         ` Marc Kleine-Budde
2017-08-22 19:03           ` AW: " Jonas Mark (ST-FIR/ENG1)
2017-08-24  9:40             ` ZHU Yi (ST-FIR/ENG1-Zhu)
2017-08-25 17:16               ` Andri Yngvason
2017-08-27 10:57           ` Wolfgang Grandegger [this message]
2017-08-28  4:21             ` ZHU Yi (ST-FIR/ENG1-Zhu)
2017-08-28  8:33               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2017-08-29  8:49                 ` ZHU Yi (ST-FIR/ENG1-Zhu)
2017-08-29  9:38                   ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2017-08-30  1:39                     ` ZHU Yi (ST-FIR/ENG1-Zhu)
2017-08-29 11:17                   ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2017-08-30  4:22                     ` ZHU Yi (ST-FIR/ENG1-Zhu)
2017-08-30  6:25                       ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2017-08-30  6:50                         ` ZHU Yi (ST-FIR/ENG1-Zhu)
2017-08-30  7:15                           ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2017-08-30  9:05                             ` ZHU Yi (ST-FIR/ENG1-Zhu)
2017-08-30 10:59                               ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2017-08-31  8:33                                 ` ZHU Yi (ST-FIR/ENG1-Zhu)
2017-08-31  9:53                                   ` Wolfgang Grandegger
2017-09-01  8:24                                     ` ZHU Yi (ST-FIR/ENG1-Zhu)
2017-08-29 13:41                   ` Andri Yngvason
2017-08-22 14:14         ` AW: AW: " Andri Yngvason
2017-08-27 12:55           ` Wolfgang Grandegger
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2017-08-26  5:46 朱燚
2017-08-28 11:23 ` Andri Yngvason

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