From: "Christopher R. Hertel" <crh@samba.org>
To: Volker.Lendecke@SerNet.DE
Cc: linux-cifs@vger.kernel.org, cifs-protocol@samba.org,
samba-technical@lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: [cifs-protocol] cifs client timeouts and hard/soft mounts
Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 13:46:39 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4CFA9A9F.1080208@samba.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1POnFL-00BKg9-JW@intern.SerNet.DE>
Volker Lendecke wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 03, 2010 at 09:54:13PM -0600, Christopher R. Hertel wrote:
>> That may seem to be in the "who cares" category, since those old transports
>> are essentially dead (much more dead than NBT, or even NBF). Unfortunately,
>> the code to handle the old transports is still there in Windows, so there
>> are behaviors -- things like the timeouts you're talking about and the weird
>> VC=0 shutdown behvior -- that exist because of these old disused transports.
>
> VC=0, how does Windows treat this facing NAT (masquerading)
> networks? I've done tests in the past where Windows killed
> valid connections from behind a NAT box when a new client
> came in.
I put a lot of info into [MS-CIFS] about how *and why* this works the way it
does. See [MS-CIFS] 2.1.3. Unfortunately, since [MS-CIFS] applies only to
W98, NT4, and earlier it doesn't tell you much about W2K and newer
implementations. There's a KB article that talks about the problem a
little: KB301673.
I thought that there was a registry setting that would allow you to tell the
Windows server NOT to close existing connections if it received a VC=0 from
the same IP. Even when working with Microsoft I wasn't able to find
anything like that, beyond what's in that KB article.
Basically, they should give up on the VC=0 thing, since it's a throw-back to
the days when OS/2 could run SMB over connectionless IPX transport over
multiple modems in parallel.
Chris -)-----
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2010-12-04 2:28 cifs client timeouts and hard/soft mounts Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20101203212811.17594274-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-04 3:54 ` [cifs-protocol] " Christopher R. Hertel
2010-12-04 8:13 ` Volker Lendecke
[not found] ` <E1POnFL-00BKg9-JW-dqLtpHMqGvUyWpdLl23E4A@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-04 11:44 ` Jeff Layton
2010-12-04 12:25 ` Shirish Pargaonkar
2010-12-04 13:09 ` Jeff Layton
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2010-12-04 14:06 ` Shirish Pargaonkar
[not found] ` <AANLkTim45G=pLwznde8S_b=FGCnYyO29Tnokghs0qZ-y-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-04 14:22 ` Jeff Layton
2010-12-04 14:46 ` Shirish Pargaonkar
[not found] ` <AANLkTimN0F5KyM7r1+k3Y3Ki+kwQukAr4uXzRJuMVZtX-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-04 16:55 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <AANLkTinsm=b5Pezzo4m6Jbmq96EcYas4Hsw0nhxfb4m6-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-04 20:17 ` Christopher R. Hertel
2010-12-04 12:30 ` Shirish Pargaonkar
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2010-12-04 12:34 ` Shirish Pargaonkar
2010-12-04 20:04 ` Christopher R. Hertel
2010-12-04 19:46 ` Christopher R. Hertel [this message]
[not found] ` <4CF9BB65.2010307-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-04 11:28 ` Jeff Layton
2010-12-04 19:49 ` Christopher R. Hertel
2010-12-04 8:12 ` Volker Lendecke
2010-12-06 1:42 ` Steve French
[not found] ` <AANLkTi=MCgZb=we2OEtxJ4DZ==sVmRLd8aQKeMU7vvKt-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-06 2:06 ` Jeff Layton
2010-12-06 2:16 ` Steve French
[not found] ` <AANLkTik4Vh5hqWwVngjCC7v1ST1YxAP9LvQbcqKDhWHp-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-06 2:30 ` Jeff Layton
2010-12-06 4:34 ` Volker Lendecke
[not found] ` <E1PPSnw-00DDbs-Va-dqLtpHMqGvUyWpdLl23E4A@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-06 16:28 ` Steve French
2010-12-06 16:49 ` [cifs-protocol] " simo
[not found] ` <1291654155.3167.6.camel-akOVU7JyYd8WIfilqQrPtNi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-06 17:06 ` Christopher R. Hertel
2010-12-06 17:17 ` Steve French
2010-12-06 17:01 ` Christopher R. Hertel
[not found] ` <4CFD16D8.4090207-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-06 17:42 ` Jeff Layton
[not found] ` <20101206124255.7ea8a8a9-9yPaYZwiELC+kQycOl6kW4xkIHaj4LzF@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-06 18:49 ` Jeremy Allison
2010-12-06 18:54 ` Christopher R. Hertel
[not found] ` <4CFD3166.4000800-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-06 20:17 ` Volker Lendecke
2010-12-06 20:38 ` Christopher R. Hertel
[not found] ` <4CFD49CD.5010002-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-06 20:42 ` Volker Lendecke
2010-12-06 20:44 ` Steve French
[not found] ` <AANLkTim1-m=d-A6yp4bWpYrEeqN_t49aHnAGPQEjrob_-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-06 20:52 ` Christopher R. Hertel
[not found] ` <4CFD4D15.60103-eUNUBHrolfbYtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-06 22:45 ` [cifs-protocol] " Christopher R. Hertel
2010-12-07 20:34 ` Matt Ficken (Insight Global)
[not found] ` <673E6032983AF84185CE49D109B4F40A526665-Jfd81uAzPQsTaQvdokkCPVir+X/St4rqwBk/1ggFUS45P9zcU8sUGwC/G2K4zDHf@public.gmane.org>
2010-12-07 20:53 ` Christopher R. Hertel
2010-12-06 2:46 ` Andrew Bartlett
2010-12-06 4:35 ` Volker Lendecke
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