From: Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@baylibre.com>
To: Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com>
Cc: Chuan Liu <chuan.liu@amlogic.com>,
Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>,
linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] clk: meson: Fix glitch free mux related issues
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2025 10:48:05 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1jfrc563wa.fsf@starbuckisacylon.baylibre.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFBinCCoX5+6+KQAtbhKx9KdSZhXVxS=cz8DfMVhjPX1c0iSPw@mail.gmail.com> (Martin Blumenstingl's message of "Sun, 28 Sep 2025 22:55:50 +0200")
On Sun 28 Sep 2025 at 22:55, Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 8:41 AM Chuan Liu <chuan.liu@amlogic.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 9/28/2025 2:05 PM, Chuan Liu wrote:
>> > Hi Jerome & Martin:
>> >
>> > Sorry for the imprecise description of the glitch-free mux earlier.
>> >
>> > Recently, while troubleshooting a CPU hang issue caused by glitches,
>> > I realized there was a discrepancy from our previous understanding,
>> > so I'd like to clarify it here.
> [...]
>> An example of the clock waveform is shown below:
>>
>>
1 2
v v
>> __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __
>> ori: ↑ |__↑ |__↑ |__↑ |__↑ |__↑ |__↑ |__↑ |__↑
>> ^
>> 1 * cycle original channel.
>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>> new: ↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑
>> ^
>> 5 * cycles new channel.
>> __ __ _ _ _ _
>> out: ↑ |__↑ |______________________↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑
>> ^ ^
>> start switching mux. switch to new channel.
Ok ... but when is it safe to disable the "ori" clock ?
Can you do it at '1' already ? or do you have to wait for '2' ?
> Thank you for the detailed report!
> This is indeed problematic behavior. I guess the result is somewhat
> random: depending on load (power draw), silicon lottery (quality),
> temperature, voltage supply, ... - one may or may not see crashes
> caused by this.
>
> Based on the previous discussion on this topic, my suggestion is to
> split the original patch:
> - one to add CLK_SET_RATE_GATE where needed (I think the meson8b.c
> driver already has this where needed) to actually enable the
> glitch-free mux behavior
> - another one with the CLK_OPS_PARENT_ENABLE change (meson8b.c would
> also need to be updated) to prevent the glitch-free mux from
> temporarily outputting an electrical low signal. Jerome also asked to
> document the behavior so we don't forget why we set this flag
Yes please split the changes and visit all the controllers shipping this
type of muxes.
>
> Both patches should get the proper "Fixes" tags.
... and proper fixes tag maybe different depending on the controller so
there might more that just 2 changes.
> I think it would also be great if you could include the waveform
> example in at least the commit message as it helps understand the
> problem.
>
> Let's also give Jerome some time to comment before you send patches.
>
>
> Best regards,
> Martin
--
Jerome
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-29 8:48 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-29 6:10 [PATCH 0/2] clk: Fix issues related to CLK_IGNORE_UNUSED failures and amlogic glitch free mux Chuan Liu via B4 Relay
2024-09-29 6:10 ` [PATCH 1/2] clk: Fix the CLK_IGNORE_UNUSED failure issue Chuan Liu via B4 Relay
2024-09-30 12:27 ` Jerome Brunet
2024-11-08 13:02 ` Chuan Liu
2024-09-29 6:10 ` [PATCH 2/2] clk: meson: Fix glitch free mux related issues Chuan Liu via B4 Relay
2024-09-30 12:36 ` Jerome Brunet
2024-09-30 20:08 ` Martin Blumenstingl
2024-10-08 5:44 ` Chuan Liu
2024-10-08 6:02 ` Jerome Brunet
2025-09-28 6:05 ` Chuan Liu
2025-09-28 6:40 ` Chuan Liu
2025-09-28 20:55 ` Martin Blumenstingl
2025-09-29 3:15 ` Chuan Liu
2025-09-29 12:36 ` Jerome Brunet
2025-09-30 2:07 ` Chuan Liu
2025-09-29 8:48 ` Jerome Brunet [this message]
2025-09-29 9:31 ` Chuan Liu
2025-09-29 12:55 ` Jerome Brunet
2025-09-30 2:04 ` Chuan Liu
2024-09-30 12:33 ` [PATCH 0/2] clk: Fix issues related to CLK_IGNORE_UNUSED failures and amlogic glitch free mux Jerome Brunet
2024-10-04 13:39 ` [RFC PATCH] clk: core: refine disable unused clocks Jerome Brunet
2024-11-08 7:59 ` Chuan Liu
2024-11-08 8:38 ` Jerome Brunet
2024-11-08 9:23 ` Chuan Liu
2024-11-08 9:59 ` Jerome Brunet
2024-11-08 11:49 ` Chuan Liu
2024-11-12 8:36 ` Jerome Brunet
2024-11-12 10:05 ` Chuan Liu
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