From: Chuan Liu <chuan.liu@amlogic.com>
To: Jerome Brunet <jbrunet@baylibre.com>,
Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com>
Cc: Michael Turquette <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
Stephen Boyd <sboyd@kernel.org>,
Neil Armstrong <neil.armstrong@linaro.org>,
Kevin Hilman <khilman@baylibre.com>,
linux-clk@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-amlogic@lists.infradead.org,
linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] clk: meson: Fix glitch free mux related issues
Date: Mon, 29 Sep 2025 17:31:07 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <36cd6282-ae1d-43f3-8738-592f043d0ba6@amlogic.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1jfrc563wa.fsf@starbuckisacylon.baylibre.com>
On 9/29/2025 4:48 PM, Jerome Brunet wrote:
> [ EXTERNAL EMAIL ]
>
> On Sun 28 Sep 2025 at 22:55, Martin Blumenstingl <martin.blumenstingl@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 28, 2025 at 8:41 AM Chuan Liu <chuan.liu@amlogic.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 9/28/2025 2:05 PM, Chuan Liu wrote:
>>>> Hi Jerome & Martin:
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for the imprecise description of the glitch-free mux earlier.
>>>>
>>>> Recently, while troubleshooting a CPU hang issue caused by glitches,
>>>> I realized there was a discrepancy from our previous understanding,
>>>> so I'd like to clarify it here.
>> [...]
>>> An example of the clock waveform is shown below:
>>>
>>>
> 1 2
> v v
>>> __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __
>>> ori: ↑ |__↑ |__↑ |__↑ |__↑ |__↑ |__↑ |__↑ |__↑
>>> ^
>>> 1 * cycle original channel.
>>> _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
>>> new: ↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑
>>> ^
>>> 5 * cycles new channel.
>>> __ __ _ _ _ _
>>> out: ↑ |__↑ |______________________↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑ |_↑
>>> ^ ^
>>> start switching mux. switch to new channel.
> Ok ... but when is it safe to disable the "ori" clock ?
> Can you do it at '1' already ? or do you have to wait for '2' ?
It should wait for "2", because there is a state machine in the
glitch-free mux, this state machine is driven by the working clock
provided by its channel 0.
>
>> Thank you for the detailed report!
>> This is indeed problematic behavior. I guess the result is somewhat
>> random: depending on load (power draw), silicon lottery (quality),
>> temperature, voltage supply, ... - one may or may not see crashes
>> caused by this.
>>
>> Based on the previous discussion on this topic, my suggestion is to
>> split the original patch:
>> - one to add CLK_SET_RATE_GATE where needed (I think the meson8b.c
>> driver already has this where needed) to actually enable the
>> glitch-free mux behavior
>> - another one with the CLK_OPS_PARENT_ENABLE change (meson8b.c would
>> also need to be updated) to prevent the glitch-free mux from
>> temporarily outputting an electrical low signal. Jerome also asked to
>> document the behavior so we don't forget why we set this flag
> Yes please split the changes and visit all the controllers shipping this
> type of muxes.
>
>> Both patches should get the proper "Fixes" tags.
> ... and proper fixes tag maybe different depending on the controller so
> there might more that just 2 changes.
>
>> I think it would also be great if you could include the waveform
>> example in at least the commit message as it helps understand the
>> problem.
>>
>> Let's also give Jerome some time to comment before you send patches.
>>
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Martin
> --
> Jerome
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-09-29 9:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-29 6:10 [PATCH 0/2] clk: Fix issues related to CLK_IGNORE_UNUSED failures and amlogic glitch free mux Chuan Liu via B4 Relay
2024-09-29 6:10 ` [PATCH 1/2] clk: Fix the CLK_IGNORE_UNUSED failure issue Chuan Liu via B4 Relay
2024-09-30 12:27 ` Jerome Brunet
2024-11-08 13:02 ` Chuan Liu
2024-09-29 6:10 ` [PATCH 2/2] clk: meson: Fix glitch free mux related issues Chuan Liu via B4 Relay
2024-09-30 12:36 ` Jerome Brunet
2024-09-30 20:08 ` Martin Blumenstingl
2024-10-08 5:44 ` Chuan Liu
2024-10-08 6:02 ` Jerome Brunet
2025-09-28 6:05 ` Chuan Liu
2025-09-28 6:40 ` Chuan Liu
2025-09-28 20:55 ` Martin Blumenstingl
2025-09-29 3:15 ` Chuan Liu
2025-09-29 12:36 ` Jerome Brunet
2025-09-30 2:07 ` Chuan Liu
2025-09-29 8:48 ` Jerome Brunet
2025-09-29 9:31 ` Chuan Liu [this message]
2025-09-29 12:55 ` Jerome Brunet
2025-09-30 2:04 ` Chuan Liu
2024-09-30 12:33 ` [PATCH 0/2] clk: Fix issues related to CLK_IGNORE_UNUSED failures and amlogic glitch free mux Jerome Brunet
2024-10-04 13:39 ` [RFC PATCH] clk: core: refine disable unused clocks Jerome Brunet
2024-11-08 7:59 ` Chuan Liu
2024-11-08 8:38 ` Jerome Brunet
2024-11-08 9:23 ` Chuan Liu
2024-11-08 9:59 ` Jerome Brunet
2024-11-08 11:49 ` Chuan Liu
2024-11-12 8:36 ` Jerome Brunet
2024-11-12 10:05 ` Chuan Liu
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