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Subject: [PATCH v3 34/41] KVM: x86: Officially define CPUID 0x40000010 as PV Timing Info (TSC and Bus)
Date: Fri, 15 May 2026 12:19:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260515191942.1892718-35-seanjc@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260515191942.1892718-1-seanjc@google.com>

From: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>

Formally define and document CPUID 0x40000010 as providing TSC and local
APIC bus frequency information for KVM's PV CPUID range.  Way back in
2008, VMware proposed (https://lkml.org/lkml/2008/10/1/246) carving out a
range of CPUID leaves for use by hypervisors.  While the broader proposal
from VMware was mostly shot down in flames, use of CPUID 0x40000010 to
provide TSC and local APIC bus frequency information survived and made it's
way into multiple guest operating systems.

XNU unconditionally assumes CPUID 0x40000010 contains the frequency
information, if it's present on any hypervisor:

  https://github.com/apple/darwin-xnu/blob/main/osfmk/i386/cpuid.c

As does FreeBSD:

  https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd-src/commit/4a432614f68

More importantly, QEMU (the de facto "reference" VMM for KVM) has
conditionally provided timing information in CPUID 0x40000010 for almost
9 years, since commit 9954a1582e ("x86-KVM: Supply TSC and APIC clock
rates to guest like VMWare").

So at this point it would be daft for KVM (or any hypervisor) to expose
0x40000010 for any *other* content.  Officially carve out and define the
CPUID leaf so that Linux-as-a-guest can follow suit and pull TSC and Local
APIC Bus frequency information from CPUID.

Defer providing userspace with the necessary information needed to
precisely and accurately enumerate the _actual_ configured TSC frequency
to the guest (that exact information, along with the scaled ratio, isn't
exposed to userspace).  As evidenced by QEMU, providing CPUID 0x40000010
without help from KVM is entirely possible, just not ideal.

Link: https://lore.kernel.org/all/ea0d7f43d910cee9600b254e303f468722fa355b.camel@infradead.org
Signed-off-by: David Woodhouse <dwmw@amazon.co.uk>
[sean: drop KVM filling of CPUID, add documentation, massage changelog]
Signed-off-by: Sean Christopherson <seanjc@google.com>
---
 Documentation/virt/kvm/x86/cpuid.rst | 12 ++++++++++++
 arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/kvm_para.h | 11 +++++++++++
 2 files changed, 23 insertions(+)

diff --git a/Documentation/virt/kvm/x86/cpuid.rst b/Documentation/virt/kvm/x86/cpuid.rst
index bda3e3e737d7..f02e395cfa9b 100644
--- a/Documentation/virt/kvm/x86/cpuid.rst
+++ b/Documentation/virt/kvm/x86/cpuid.rst
@@ -122,3 +122,15 @@ KVM_HINTS_REALTIME 0            guest checks this feature bit to
                                 preempted for an unlimited time
                                 allowing optimizations
 ================== ============ =================================
+
+function: KVM_CPUID_TIMING_INFO (0x40000010)
+
+returns::
+
+   eax = (Virtual) TSC frequency in kHz
+   ebx = (Virtual) Bus (local APIC timer) frequency in kHz
+   ecx = 0 (Reserved)
+   edx = 0 (Reserved)
+
+Note, KVM only defines the semantics of KVM_CPUID_TIMING_INFO; KVM does NOT
+advertise support via KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_CPUID.
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/kvm_para.h b/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/kvm_para.h
index a1efa7907a0b..c3a384711f3a 100644
--- a/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/kvm_para.h
+++ b/arch/x86/include/uapi/asm/kvm_para.h
@@ -44,6 +44,17 @@
  */
 #define KVM_FEATURE_CLOCKSOURCE_STABLE_BIT	24
 
+/*
+ * The timing information leaf provides TSC and local APIC timer frequency
+ * information to the guest.  Note, userspace is responsible for filling the
+ * leaf with the correct information.
+ *
+ *  # EAX: (Virtual) TSC frequency in kHz.
+ *  # EBX: (Virtual) Bus (local APIC timer) frequency in kHz.
+ *  # ECX, EDX: Reserved (must be zero).
+ */
+#define KVM_CPUID_TIMING_INFO	0x40000010
+
 #define MSR_KVM_WALL_CLOCK  0x11
 #define MSR_KVM_SYSTEM_TIME 0x12
 
-- 
2.54.0.563.g4f69b47b94-goog


  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-05-15 19:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-15 19:19 [PATCH v3 00/41] x86: Try to wrangle PV clocks vs. TSC Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 01/41] x86/tsc: Add a standalone helpers for getting TSC info from CPUID.0x15 Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 02/41] x86/tsc: Add helper to register CPU and TSC freq calibration routines Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 03/41] x86/sev: Mark TSC as reliable when configuring Secure TSC Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 04/41] x86/sev: Move check for SNP Secure TSC support to tsc_early_init() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 05/41] x86/tdx: Override PV calibration routines with CPUID-based calibration Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 06/41] x86/acrn: Mark TSC frequency as known when using ACRN for calibration Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 07/41] clocksource: hyper-v: Register sched_clock save/restore iff it's necessary Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 08/41] clocksource: hyper-v: Drop wrappers to sched_clock save/restore helpers Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 09/41] clocksource: hyper-v: Don't save/restore TSC offset when using HV sched_clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 10/41] x86/kvmclock: Setup kvmclock for secondary CPUs iff CONFIG_SMP=y Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 11/41] x86/kvm: Don't disable kvmclock on BSP in syscore_suspend() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 12/41] x86/paravirt: Remove unnecessary PARAVIRT=n stub for paravirt_set_sched_clock() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 13/41] x86/paravirt: Move handling of unstable PV clocks into paravirt_set_sched_clock() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 14/41] x86/kvmclock: Move sched_clock save/restore helpers up in kvmclock.c Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 15/41] x86/xen/time: Nullify x86_platform's sched_clock save/restore hooks Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 16/41] x86/vmware: Nullify save/restore hooks when using VMware's sched_clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 17/41] x86/tsc: WARN if TSC sched_clock save/restore used with PV sched_clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 18/41] x86/paravirt: Pass sched_clock save/restore helpers during registration Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 19/41] x86/kvmclock: Move kvm_sched_clock_init() down in kvmclock.c Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 20/41] x86/xen/time: Mark xen_setup_vsyscall_time_info() as __init Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 21/41] x86/pvclock: Mark setup helpers and related various as __init/__ro_after_init Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 22/41] x86/pvclock: WARN if pvclock's valid_flags are overwritten Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 23/41] x86/kvmclock: Refactor handling of PVCLOCK_TSC_STABLE_BIT during kvmclock_init() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 24/41] timekeeping: Resume clocksources before reading persistent clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 25/41] x86/kvmclock: Hook clocksource.suspend/resume when kvmclock isn't sched_clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 26/41] x86/kvmclock: WARN if wall clock is read while kvmclock is suspended Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 27/41] x86/kvmclock: Enable kvmclock on APs during onlining if kvmclock isn't sched_clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 28/41] x86/paravirt: Mark __paravirt_set_sched_clock() as __init Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 29/41] x86/paravirt: Plumb a return code into __paravirt_set_sched_clock() Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 30/41] x86/paravirt: Don't use a PV sched_clock in CoCo guests with trusted TSC Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 31/41] x86/tsc: Pass KNOWN_FREQ and RELIABLE as params to registration Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 32/41] x86/tsc: Rejects attempts to override TSC calibration with lesser routine Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 33/41] x86/kvmclock: Mark TSC as reliable when it's constant and nonstop Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` Sean Christopherson [this message]
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 35/41] x86/kvmclock: Obtain TSC frequency from CPUID if present Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 36/41] x86/kvmclock: Get local APIC bus frequency from PV CPUID Timing Info Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 37/41] x86/kvmclock: Use TSC for sched_clock if it's constant and non-stop Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 38/41] x86/paravirt: kvmclock: Setup kvmclock early iff it's sched_clock Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 39/41] x86/paravirt: Move using_native_sched_clock() stub into timer.h Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 40/41] x86/tsc: Add standalone helper for getting CPU frequency from CPUID Sean Christopherson
2026-05-15 19:19 ` [PATCH v3 41/41] x86/kvmclock: Get CPU base frequency from CPUID when it's available Sean Christopherson

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