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From: Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>
To: Chao Gao <chao.gao@intel.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, linux-coco@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, binbin.wu@linux.intel.com,
	dave.hansen@linux.intel.com, djbw@kernel.org,
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	vishal.l.verma@intel.com, yilun.xu@linux.intel.com,
	xiaoyao.li@intel.com, yan.y.zhao@intel.com,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@kernel.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>,
	x86@kernel.org, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v9 11/23] x86/virt/seamldr: Allocate and populate a module update request
Date: Mon, 18 May 2026 08:12:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <977c1cf8-45cf-4902-9c50-ffc2b45391e6@intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <agsfCsvcILh3Vg7a@intel.com>

On 5/18/26 07:15, Chao Gao wrote:
>>> +#define TDX_IMAGE_VERSION_2		0x200
>>> +
>>> +struct tdx_image_header {
>>> +	u16	version; // This ABI is always 0x200
>>
>> That comment reads strangely in here. Did I ask you to write that?
> 
> I copied that from the example you suggested for this structure in v8. But
> yes, it does read awkwardly here, so I will drop it.

The point is that the code or comments needs to mention *somewhere* that
"This (header->version) ABI is always 0x200". I didn't mean for you to
literally put that ^ in there.

It's fine if it is in the code to. Just mention it somewhere.

>>> +static int init_seamldr_params(struct seamldr_params *params, const u8 *data, u32 size)
>>> +{
>>> +	const struct tdx_image *image		= (const void *)data;
>>> +	const struct tdx_image_header *header	= &image->header;
>>> +
>>> +	u32 sigstruct_len	= header->sigstruct_nr_pages * PAGE_SIZE;
>>> +	u32 module_len		= header->module_nr_pages * PAGE_SIZE;
>>> +
>>> +	u8 *header_start	= (u8 *)header;
>>> +	u8 *header_end		= header_start + HEADER_SIZE;
>>> +
>>> +	u8 *sigstruct_start	= header_end;
>>> +	u8 *sigstruct_end	= sigstruct_start + sigstruct_len;
>>> +
>>> +	u8 *module_start	= sigstruct_end;
>>> +
>>> +	/* Check the calculated payload size against the data size. */
>>> +	if (HEADER_SIZE + sigstruct_len + module_len != size)
>>> +		return -EINVAL;
>>> +
>>> +	/*
>>> +	 * Don't care about user passing the wrong file, but protect
>>> +	 * kernel ABI by preventing accepting garbage.
>>> +	 */
>>
>> How does this "protect kernel ABI"?
> 
> "Protect kernel ABI" was imprecise here. The intent is to reject
> obviously malformed headers.
> 
> If the kernel accepts garbage in header fields today, userspace can come
> to rely on that behavior. Later, the kernel may start validating those
> fields more strictly or assign meaning to fields that were previously
> reserved. Rejecting the same image then could be seen as a kernel
> regression.
> 
> I'll simplify the comment to:
> 
> 	/* Reject obviously malformed image headers. */

I'm still not following this at all.

I suspect that someone along the way said something in reviewing this
about ensuring that fields that are "reserved" are treated as "reserved
+ must be zero".

Somehow that recommendation got conflated with the version checking.

But the deeper point is that neither this patch nor its contributor is
quite able to articulate the reason for this line of code being here.

Let me try.

	The "tdx_image" ABI is versioned. However, there has only ever
	been one public versions of the structure: ->version==0x200. The
	kernel can only parse that version. Future versions of the
	module might be able to use the same ABIs (user/kernel and
	kernel/SEAMLDR) but they will not be able to use this kernel
	code.

	Reject module images without that specific version. This ensures
	that the kernel is able to understand the passed-in format.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-05-18 15:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-05-13 15:09 [PATCH v9 00/23] Runtime TDX module update support Chao Gao
2026-05-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v9 01/23] x86/virt/tdx: Consolidate TDX global initialization states Chao Gao
2026-05-15 16:14   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-18  7:43     ` Chao Gao
2026-05-18 18:00       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-05-18 18:09         ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v9 02/23] x86/virt/tdx: Move TDX_FEATURES0 bits to asm/tdx.h Chao Gao
2026-05-15 16:15   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-18  7:52     ` Chao Gao
2026-05-18 16:57       ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-05-19  1:59         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-05-19 10:24           ` Chao Gao
2026-05-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v9 03/23] x86/virt/tdx: Move low level SEAMCALL helpers out of <asm/tdx.h> Chao Gao
2026-05-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v9 04/23] coco/tdx-host: Introduce a "tdx_host" device Chao Gao
2026-05-15 16:21   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-18 11:18     ` Chao Gao
2026-05-18 18:08       ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v9 05/23] coco/tdx-host: Expose TDX module version Chao Gao
2026-05-15 16:53   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-18 11:29     ` Chao Gao
2026-05-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v9 06/23] x86/virt/seamldr: Introduce a wrapper for P-SEAMLDR SEAMCALLs Chao Gao
2026-05-15 17:02   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-15 17:07   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v9 07/23] x86/virt/seamldr: Add a helper to retrieve P-SEAMLDR information Chao Gao
2026-05-15 17:18   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-18 11:51     ` Chao Gao
2026-05-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v9 08/23] coco/tdx-host: Expose P-SEAMLDR information via sysfs Chao Gao
2026-05-15 17:23   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-18 12:35     ` Chao Gao
2026-05-15 17:28   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v9 09/23] coco/tdx-host: Don't expose P-SEAMLDR information on CPUs with erratum Chao Gao
2026-05-15 17:26   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-18 12:44     ` Chao Gao
2026-05-18 15:29       ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-19  1:22         ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-05-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v9 10/23] coco/tdx-host: Implement firmware upload sysfs ABI for TDX module updates Chao Gao
2026-05-15 18:05   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v9 11/23] x86/virt/seamldr: Allocate and populate a module update request Chao Gao
2026-05-15  6:05   ` Chao Gao
2026-05-15 18:24   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-15 18:44     ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-05-15 18:59       ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-18 14:15     ` Chao Gao
2026-05-18 15:12       ` Dave Hansen [this message]
2026-05-15 19:43   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v9 12/23] x86/virt/seamldr: Introduce skeleton for TDX module updates Chao Gao
2026-05-18 15:36   ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v9 13/23] x86/virt/seamldr: Abort updates after a failed step Chao Gao
2026-05-19  2:34   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-05-19 10:20     ` Chao Gao
2026-05-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v9 14/23] x86/virt/seamldr: Shut down the current TDX module Chao Gao
2026-05-19  3:00   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-05-19 12:05     ` Chao Gao
2026-05-19 16:24       ` Dave Hansen
2026-05-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v9 15/23] x86/virt/tdx: Reset software states during TDX module shutdown Chao Gao
2026-05-13 15:09 ` [PATCH v9 16/23] x86/virt/seamldr: Install a new TDX module Chao Gao
2026-05-13 15:10 ` [PATCH v9 17/23] x86/virt/seamldr: Do TDX per-CPU initialization after module installation Chao Gao
2026-05-13 15:10 ` [PATCH v9 18/23] x86/virt/tdx: Restore TDX module state Chao Gao
2026-05-13 15:10 ` [PATCH v9 19/23] x86/virt/tdx: Refresh TDX module version after update Chao Gao
2026-05-19  3:16   ` Edgecombe, Rick P
2026-05-19 10:42     ` Chao Gao
2026-05-13 15:10 ` [PATCH v9 20/23] x86/virt/tdx: Reject updates during compatibility-sensitive operations Chao Gao
2026-05-15  6:12   ` Chao Gao
2026-05-13 15:10 ` [PATCH v9 21/23] x86/virt/tdx: Enable TDX module runtime updates Chao Gao
2026-05-13 15:10 ` [PATCH v9 22/23] coco/tdx-host: Document TDX module update compatibility criteria Chao Gao
2026-05-13 15:10 ` [PATCH v9 23/23] x86/virt/tdx: Document TDX module update Chao Gao

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