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From: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
To: Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>
Cc: Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@kernel.org>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>,
	Kuldeep Singh <kuldeep.singh@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] crypto: qce - Remove driver
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 2026 07:55:20 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260729145520.GA1702@sol> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <15904301-fd03-45e5-b909-dfce52449726@kernel.org>

On Wed, Jul 29, 2026 at 10:02:27AM +0200, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
> On 7/28/26 5:22 PM, Eric Biggers wrote:
> > On Fri, Jul 24, 2026 at 08:51:44AM -0700, Eric Biggers wrote:
> >> It is consuming a lot of the community's time to help maintain,
> >> including dealing with LLM-found bugs, with no clear benefit to anyone.
> >> Even considering *just today* we can see someone sent a bug fix:
> >> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-crypto/20260724081537.191992-2-thorsten.blum@linux.dev/
> > 
> > Another example:
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-crypto/d5de5a55-eb35-4ad5-8d53-12e188e156cb@oss.qualcomm.com/
> > 
> >> It definitely *was* causing problems before it was disabled via the
> >> crypto priority system (which made it unused in the kernel) and dropped
> >> it from AF_ALG (which removed most of the unprivileged attack surface).
> >> When anyone accidentally used it, it caused at least a huge performance
> >> problem, and sometimes other problems too like filesystem hangs.  It was
> >> an issue for years.
> > 
> > This actually seems to have been an overly-optimistic characterization!
> > As per
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-crypto/d5de5a55-eb35-4ad5-8d53-12e188e156cb@oss.qualcomm.com/
> > this driver drains the battery on every system with the module loaded,
> > even when no crypto requests are actually sent to it.
> 
> Unfortunately removing it drains way more battery, because the buses
> never hit sync_state and are kept at their maximum frequencies:
> 
> [   18.021823] qnoc-glymur interconnect-1: sync_state() pending due to 1dfa000.crypto
> [   18.029605] qnoc-glymur 16e0000.interconnect: sync_state() pending due to 1dfa000.crypto
> 
> (it transiently also pins DRAM and friends to max-freq which absolutely
> kills battery life)

Isn't that easily fixable by marking the node as "disabled" in the
device tree, or even just deleting it entirely?

- Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-29 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-24  5:06 [PATCH] crypto: qce - Remove driver Eric Biggers
2026-07-24  5:28 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-24  7:36   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-24  8:41     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-24  9:29       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-24 14:14         ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-24 14:47           ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-24 15:04             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-24 15:09               ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-24 15:25                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-24 15:51                   ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-27 13:26                     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-28 15:30                       ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-28 15:22                     ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-29  8:02                       ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-07-29 14:55                         ` Eric Biggers [this message]
2026-07-29 16:55                           ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-07-29 17:18                             ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-29 12:02                       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-29 17:38                         ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-24  9:56 ` Sumit Garg
2026-07-24 13:51   ` Eric Biggers

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