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From: Konrad Dybcio <konrad.dybcio@oss.qualcomm.com>
To: Eric Biggers <ebiggers@kernel.org>
Cc: Konrad Dybcio <konradybcio@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Bartosz Golaszewski <brgl@kernel.org>,
	linux-crypto@vger.kernel.org,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Demi Marie Obenour <demiobenour@gmail.com>,
	Kuldeep Singh <kuldeep.singh@oss.qualcomm.com>,
	Dmitry Baryshkov <dmitry.baryshkov@oss.qualcomm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] crypto: qce - Remove driver
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2026 13:15:35 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a5e953b8-89fb-4f65-a299-37352d9f6fa8@oss.qualcomm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260729171850.GA4454@quark>

On 7/29/26 7:18 PM, Eric Biggers wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2026 at 06:55:20PM +0200, Konrad Dybcio wrote:
>>>> Unfortunately removing it drains way more battery, because the buses
>>>> never hit sync_state and are kept at their maximum frequencies:
>>>>
>>>> [   18.021823] qnoc-glymur interconnect-1: sync_state() pending due to 1dfa000.crypto
>>>> [   18.029605] qnoc-glymur 16e0000.interconnect: sync_state() pending due to 1dfa000.crypto
>>>>
>>>> (it transiently also pins DRAM and friends to max-freq which absolutely
>>>> kills battery life)
>>>
>>> Isn't that easily fixable by marking the node as "disabled" in the
>>> device tree, or even just deleting it entirely?
>>
>> Avoided? Yes. Fixed? No. The DT is valid but Linux can't deal with it
>> [since the driver is gone]
> 
> If needed we can keep a stub driver that just disables power and doesn't
> register anything with the crypto API.  I can send a patch that does
> that.

I believe we (are going to) need something like that in the kernel
for similar cases, however I'd rather see this driver kept/reinstated
for the reasons Bartosz is arguing

> This is an interesting twist though, because it means the claim that
> people can just disable this driver in their kconfig to avoid the
> problems in it (which is being used as justification for keeping it) is
> actually false as well.  As well as the claim that adding the node to
> the DT file is "just describing the hardware" and has no impact.
> 
> This would also imply that no driver using this sync_state mechanism can
> ever be completely removed from Linux, ever, which seems odd.

Linux has always worked around various firmware peculiarities, so
I guess we're just continuing the tradition! :P

Konrad

  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-30 11:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-24  5:06 [PATCH] crypto: qce - Remove driver Eric Biggers
2026-07-24  5:28 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-24  7:36   ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-24  8:41     ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-24  9:29       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-24 14:14         ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-24 14:47           ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-24 15:04             ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-24 15:09               ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-24 15:25                 ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2026-07-24 15:51                   ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-27 13:26                     ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-28 15:30                       ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-28 15:22                     ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-29  8:02                       ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-07-29 14:55                         ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-29 16:55                           ` Konrad Dybcio
2026-07-29 17:18                             ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-30 11:15                               ` Konrad Dybcio [this message]
2026-07-30 16:40                                 ` Demi Marie Obenour
2026-07-29 12:02                       ` Bartosz Golaszewski
2026-07-29 17:38                         ` Eric Biggers
2026-07-24  9:56 ` Sumit Garg
2026-07-24 13:51   ` Eric Biggers

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