* [PATCH] cxl/region: don't try to cleanup after cxl_region_setup_targets() fails [not found] <CGME20231010183840uscas1p294532ae60e6014508efd897fef14fffd@uscas1p2.samsung.com> @ 2023-10-10 18:38 ` Jim Harris 2023-10-11 14:04 ` Dan Carpenter 2023-10-11 14:51 ` [PATCH v2] " Jim Harris 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Jim Harris @ 2023-10-10 18:38 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, dan.carpenter@linaro.org, dan.j.williams@intel.com Patch 5e42bcbc ("cxl/region: decrement ->nr_targets on error in cxl_region_attach()") tried to avoid 'eiw' initialization errors when ->nr_targets exceeded 16, by just decrementing ->nr_targets when cxl_region_setup_targets() failed. Patch 86987c76 ("cxl/region: Cleanup target list on attach error") extended that cleanup to also clear cxled->pos and p->targets[pos]. The initialization error was incidentally fixed separately by patch 8d4285425 ("cxl/region: Fix port setup uninitialized variable warnings") which was merged a few days after 5e42bcbc. But now the original cleanup when cxl_region_setup_targets() fails prevents endpoint and switch decoder resources from being reused: 1) the cleanup does not set the decoder's region to NULL, which results in future dpa_size_store() calls returning -EBUSY 2) the decoder is not properly freed, which results in future commit errors associated with the upstream switch Now that the initialization errors were fixed separately, the proper cleanup for this case is to just return immediately. Then the resources associated with this target get cleanup up as normal when the failed region is deleted. Tested by trying to create an invalid region for a 2 switch * 2 endpoint topology, and then following up with creating a valid region. Signed-off-by: Jim Harris <jim.harris@samsung.com> --- drivers/cxl/core/region.c | 8 +------- 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 7 deletions(-) diff --git a/drivers/cxl/core/region.c b/drivers/cxl/core/region.c index 6d63b8798c29..315ca1640e06 100644 --- a/drivers/cxl/core/region.c +++ b/drivers/cxl/core/region.c @@ -1750,7 +1750,7 @@ static int cxl_region_attach(struct cxl_region *cxlr, if (p->nr_targets == p->interleave_ways) { rc = cxl_region_setup_targets(cxlr); if (rc) - goto err_decrement; + return rc; p->state = CXL_CONFIG_ACTIVE; } @@ -1762,12 +1762,6 @@ static int cxl_region_attach(struct cxl_region *cxlr, }; return 0; - -err_decrement: - p->nr_targets--; - cxled->pos = -1; - p->targets[pos] = NULL; - return rc; } static int cxl_region_detach(struct cxl_endpoint_decoder *cxled) ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] cxl/region: don't try to cleanup after cxl_region_setup_targets() fails 2023-10-10 18:38 ` [PATCH] cxl/region: don't try to cleanup after cxl_region_setup_targets() fails Jim Harris @ 2023-10-11 14:04 ` Dan Carpenter 2023-10-11 14:31 ` Jim Harris 2023-10-11 14:51 ` [PATCH v2] " Jim Harris 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Dan Carpenter @ 2023-10-11 14:04 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jim Harris; +Cc: linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, dan.j.williams@intel.com On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 06:38:39PM +0000, Jim Harris wrote: > Patch 5e42bcbc ("cxl/region: decrement ->nr_targets on error in > cxl_region_attach()") tried to avoid 'eiw' initialization errors when > ->nr_targets exceeded 16, by just decrementing ->nr_targets when > cxl_region_setup_targets() failed. I mean that's what I wrote but I fairly sure that I was concerned about ->nr_targets getting incremented to an invalid value. drivers/cxl/core/region.c 1746 p->targets[pos] = cxled; ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This array has CXL_DECODER_MAX_INTERLEAVE (16) elements. 1747 cxled->pos = pos; 1748 p->nr_targets++; 1749 1750 if (p->nr_targets == p->interleave_ways) { ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This is how many we want, but it's capped at 16 so we don't go over. Like I guess we add one at a time until we hit the max and then when we get everything added 1751 rc = cxl_region_setup_targets(cxlr); Then we register stuff. So if we decrement and try to attach another region then my idea was that it would write over the last element in the array. But if we don't have the decrement and we try to attach another region it will go beyond the end of the array. 1752 if (rc) 1753 goto err_decrement; 1754 p->state = CXL_CONFIG_ACTIVE; 1755 } 1756 1757 cxled->cxld.interleave_ways = p->interleave_ways; 1758 cxled->cxld.interleave_granularity = p->interleave_granularity; 1759 cxled->cxld.hpa_range = (struct range) { 1760 .start = p->res->start, 1761 .end = p->res->end, 1762 }; 1763 1764 return 0; 1765 1766 err_decrement: 1767 p->nr_targets--; 1768 cxled->pos = -1; 1769 p->targets[pos] = NULL; 1770 return rc; 1771 } But I was just going from static analysis and code review and not testing and obviously you have tested this. A simple fix for my concern would be to do this: regards, dan carpenter diff --git a/drivers/cxl/core/region.c b/drivers/cxl/core/region.c index 6d63b8798c29..5948c4a01745 100644 --- a/drivers/cxl/core/region.c +++ b/drivers/cxl/core/region.c @@ -1649,6 +1649,11 @@ static int cxl_region_attach(struct cxl_region *cxlr, return -ENODEV; } + if (p->nr_targets >= p->interleave_ways) { + dev_dbg(&cxlr->dev, "%s too many regions\n", dev_name(&cxled->cxld.dev)); + return -EINVAL; + } + /* all full of members, or interleave config not established? */ if (p->state > CXL_CONFIG_INTERLEAVE_ACTIVE) { dev_dbg(&cxlr->dev, "region already active\n"); ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH] cxl/region: don't try to cleanup after cxl_region_setup_targets() fails 2023-10-11 14:04 ` Dan Carpenter @ 2023-10-11 14:31 ` Jim Harris 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Jim Harris @ 2023-10-11 14:31 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dan Carpenter Cc: Jim Harris, linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, dan.j.williams@intel.com > On Oct 11, 2023, at 7:04 AM, Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@linaro.org> wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 10, 2023 at 06:38:39PM +0000, Jim Harris wrote: >> Patch 5e42bcbc ("cxl/region: decrement ->nr_targets on error in >> cxl_region_attach()") tried to avoid 'eiw' initialization errors when >> ->nr_targets exceeded 16, by just decrementing ->nr_targets when >> cxl_region_setup_targets() failed. > > I mean that's what I wrote but I fairly sure that I was concerned about > ->nr_targets getting incremented to an invalid value. > > drivers/cxl/core/region.c > 1746 p->targets[pos] = cxled; > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > This array has CXL_DECODER_MAX_INTERLEAVE (16) elements. Agreed, we need to guard against the array overflow too. > > But I was just going from static analysis and code review and not > testing and obviously you have tested this. A simple fix for my > concern would be to do this: > > regards, > dan carpenter > > diff --git a/drivers/cxl/core/region.c b/drivers/cxl/core/region.c > index 6d63b8798c29..5948c4a01745 100644 > --- a/drivers/cxl/core/region.c > +++ b/drivers/cxl/core/region.c > @@ -1649,6 +1649,11 @@ static int cxl_region_attach(struct cxl_region *cxlr, > return -ENODEV; > } > > + if (p->nr_targets >= p->interleave_ways) { > + dev_dbg(&cxlr->dev, "%s too many regions\n", dev_name(&cxled->cxld.dev)); > + return -EINVAL; > + } > + > /* all full of members, or interleave config not established? */ > if (p->state > CXL_CONFIG_INTERLEAVE_ACTIVE) { > dev_dbg(&cxlr->dev, "region already active\n”); I’ll push a v2. I had to convince myself that we didn’t also need a comparison against CXL_DECODER_MAX_INTERLEAVE. But interleave_ways_store() will fail with a value > 16 via the ways_to_eiw() call, so the p->interleave_ways check is sufficient. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* [PATCH v2] cxl/region: don't try to cleanup after cxl_region_setup_targets() fails 2023-10-10 18:38 ` [PATCH] cxl/region: don't try to cleanup after cxl_region_setup_targets() fails Jim Harris 2023-10-11 14:04 ` Dan Carpenter @ 2023-10-11 14:51 ` Jim Harris 2023-10-11 14:57 ` Dan Carpenter ` (3 more replies) 1 sibling, 4 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Jim Harris @ 2023-10-11 14:51 UTC (permalink / raw) To: linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, dan.carpenter@linaro.org, dan.j.williams@intel.com Patch 5e42bcbc ("cxl/region: decrement ->nr_targets on error in cxl_region_attach()") tried to avoid 'eiw' initialization errors when ->nr_targets exceeded 16, by just decrementing ->nr_targets when cxl_region_setup_targets() failed. Patch 86987c76 ("cxl/region: Cleanup target list on attach error") extended that cleanup to also clear cxled->pos and p->targets[pos]. The initialization error was incidentally fixed separately by patch 8d4285425 ("cxl/region: Fix port setup uninitialized variable warnings") which was merged a few days after 5e42bcbc. But now the original cleanup when cxl_region_setup_targets() fails prevents endpoint and switch decoder resources from being reused: 1) the cleanup does not set the decoder's region to NULL, which results in future dpa_size_store() calls returning -EBUSY 2) the decoder is not properly freed, which results in future commit errors associated with the upstream switch Now that the initialization errors were fixed separately, the proper cleanup for this case is to just return immediately. Then the resources associated with this target get cleanup up as normal when the failed region is deleted. The ->nr_targets decrement in the error case also helped prevent a p->targets[] array overflow, so add a new check to prevent against that overflow. Tested by trying to create an invalid region for a 2 switch * 2 endpoint topology, and then following up with creating a valid region. Signed-off-by: Jim Harris <jim.harris@samsung.com> --- drivers/cxl/core/region.c | 14 +++++++------- 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) diff --git a/drivers/cxl/core/region.c b/drivers/cxl/core/region.c index 6d63b8798c29..2b3b3c62d0a7 100644 --- a/drivers/cxl/core/region.c +++ b/drivers/cxl/core/region.c @@ -1658,6 +1658,12 @@ static int cxl_region_attach(struct cxl_region *cxlr, return -ENXIO; } + if (p->nr_targets >= p->interleave_ways) { + dev_dbg(&cxlr->dev, "region already has %d endpoints\n", + p->nr_targets); + return -EINVAL; + } + ep_port = cxled_to_port(cxled); root_port = cxlrd_to_port(cxlrd); dport = cxl_find_dport_by_dev(root_port, ep_port->host_bridge); @@ -1750,7 +1756,7 @@ static int cxl_region_attach(struct cxl_region *cxlr, if (p->nr_targets == p->interleave_ways) { rc = cxl_region_setup_targets(cxlr); if (rc) - goto err_decrement; + return rc; p->state = CXL_CONFIG_ACTIVE; } @@ -1762,12 +1768,6 @@ static int cxl_region_attach(struct cxl_region *cxlr, }; return 0; - -err_decrement: - p->nr_targets--; - cxled->pos = -1; - p->targets[pos] = NULL; - return rc; } static int cxl_region_detach(struct cxl_endpoint_decoder *cxled) ^ permalink raw reply related [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v2] cxl/region: don't try to cleanup after cxl_region_setup_targets() fails 2023-10-11 14:51 ` [PATCH v2] " Jim Harris @ 2023-10-11 14:57 ` Dan Carpenter 2023-10-11 20:41 ` Jonathan Cameron ` (2 subsequent siblings) 3 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Dan Carpenter @ 2023-10-11 14:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jim Harris; +Cc: linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, dan.j.williams@intel.com Acked-by: Dan Carpenter <dan.carpenter@linaro.org> regards, dan carpenter ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v2] cxl/region: don't try to cleanup after cxl_region_setup_targets() fails 2023-10-11 14:51 ` [PATCH v2] " Jim Harris 2023-10-11 14:57 ` Dan Carpenter @ 2023-10-11 20:41 ` Jonathan Cameron 2023-10-13 16:57 ` Dave Jiang 2023-10-24 23:01 ` Dan Williams 3 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Jonathan Cameron @ 2023-10-11 20:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jim Harris Cc: linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, dan.carpenter@linaro.org, dan.j.williams@intel.com On Wed, 11 Oct 2023 14:51:31 +0000 Jim Harris <jim.harris@samsung.com> wrote: > Patch 5e42bcbc ("cxl/region: decrement ->nr_targets on error in > cxl_region_attach()") tried to avoid 'eiw' initialization errors when > ->nr_targets exceeded 16, by just decrementing ->nr_targets when > cxl_region_setup_targets() failed. Patch 86987c76 ("cxl/region: Cleanup > target list on attach error") extended that cleanup to also clear > cxled->pos and p->targets[pos]. > > The initialization error was incidentally fixed separately by patch > 8d4285425 ("cxl/region: Fix port setup uninitialized variable warnings") > which was merged a few days after 5e42bcbc. > > But now the original cleanup when cxl_region_setup_targets() fails > prevents endpoint and switch decoder resources from being reused: > > 1) the cleanup does not set the decoder's region to NULL, which results > in future dpa_size_store() calls returning -EBUSY > 2) the decoder is not properly freed, which results in future commit > errors associated with the upstream switch > > Now that the initialization errors were fixed separately, the proper > cleanup for this case is to just return immediately. Then the resources > associated with this target get cleanup up as normal when the failed > region is deleted. > > The ->nr_targets decrement in the error case also helped prevent > a p->targets[] array overflow, so add a new check to prevent against > that overflow. > > Tested by trying to create an invalid region for a 2 switch * 2 endpoint > topology, and then following up with creating a valid region. > > Signed-off-by: Jim Harris <jim.harris@samsung.com> I agree with your analysis and that this seems to fix the cases you've called out. Reviewed-by: Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com> > --- > drivers/cxl/core/region.c | 14 +++++++------- > 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/drivers/cxl/core/region.c b/drivers/cxl/core/region.c > index 6d63b8798c29..2b3b3c62d0a7 100644 > --- a/drivers/cxl/core/region.c > +++ b/drivers/cxl/core/region.c > @@ -1658,6 +1658,12 @@ static int cxl_region_attach(struct cxl_region *cxlr, > return -ENXIO; > } > > + if (p->nr_targets >= p->interleave_ways) { > + dev_dbg(&cxlr->dev, "region already has %d endpoints\n", > + p->nr_targets); > + return -EINVAL; > + } > + > ep_port = cxled_to_port(cxled); > root_port = cxlrd_to_port(cxlrd); > dport = cxl_find_dport_by_dev(root_port, ep_port->host_bridge); > @@ -1750,7 +1756,7 @@ static int cxl_region_attach(struct cxl_region *cxlr, > if (p->nr_targets == p->interleave_ways) { > rc = cxl_region_setup_targets(cxlr); > if (rc) > - goto err_decrement; > + return rc; > p->state = CXL_CONFIG_ACTIVE; > } > > @@ -1762,12 +1768,6 @@ static int cxl_region_attach(struct cxl_region *cxlr, > }; > > return 0; > - > -err_decrement: > - p->nr_targets--; > - cxled->pos = -1; > - p->targets[pos] = NULL; > - return rc; > } > > static int cxl_region_detach(struct cxl_endpoint_decoder *cxled) > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v2] cxl/region: don't try to cleanup after cxl_region_setup_targets() fails 2023-10-11 14:51 ` [PATCH v2] " Jim Harris 2023-10-11 14:57 ` Dan Carpenter 2023-10-11 20:41 ` Jonathan Cameron @ 2023-10-13 16:57 ` Dave Jiang 2023-10-24 23:01 ` Dan Williams 3 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Dave Jiang @ 2023-10-13 16:57 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jim Harris, linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, dan.carpenter@linaro.org, dan.j.williams@intel.com On 10/11/23 07:51, Jim Harris wrote: > Patch 5e42bcbc ("cxl/region: decrement ->nr_targets on error in > cxl_region_attach()") tried to avoid 'eiw' initialization errors when > ->nr_targets exceeded 16, by just decrementing ->nr_targets when > cxl_region_setup_targets() failed. Patch 86987c76 ("cxl/region: Cleanup > target list on attach error") extended that cleanup to also clear > cxled->pos and p->targets[pos]. > > The initialization error was incidentally fixed separately by patch > 8d4285425 ("cxl/region: Fix port setup uninitialized variable warnings") > which was merged a few days after 5e42bcbc. > > But now the original cleanup when cxl_region_setup_targets() fails > prevents endpoint and switch decoder resources from being reused: > > 1) the cleanup does not set the decoder's region to NULL, which results > in future dpa_size_store() calls returning -EBUSY > 2) the decoder is not properly freed, which results in future commit > errors associated with the upstream switch > > Now that the initialization errors were fixed separately, the proper > cleanup for this case is to just return immediately. Then the resources > associated with this target get cleanup up as normal when the failed > region is deleted. > > The ->nr_targets decrement in the error case also helped prevent > a p->targets[] array overflow, so add a new check to prevent against > that overflow. > > Tested by trying to create an invalid region for a 2 switch * 2 endpoint > topology, and then following up with creating a valid region. > > Signed-off-by: Jim Harris <jim.harris@samsung.com> Reviewed-by: Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com> > --- > drivers/cxl/core/region.c | 14 +++++++------- > 1 file changed, 7 insertions(+), 7 deletions(-) > > diff --git a/drivers/cxl/core/region.c b/drivers/cxl/core/region.c > index 6d63b8798c29..2b3b3c62d0a7 100644 > --- a/drivers/cxl/core/region.c > +++ b/drivers/cxl/core/region.c > @@ -1658,6 +1658,12 @@ static int cxl_region_attach(struct cxl_region *cxlr, > return -ENXIO; > } > > + if (p->nr_targets >= p->interleave_ways) { > + dev_dbg(&cxlr->dev, "region already has %d endpoints\n", > + p->nr_targets); > + return -EINVAL; > + } > + > ep_port = cxled_to_port(cxled); > root_port = cxlrd_to_port(cxlrd); > dport = cxl_find_dport_by_dev(root_port, ep_port->host_bridge); > @@ -1750,7 +1756,7 @@ static int cxl_region_attach(struct cxl_region *cxlr, > if (p->nr_targets == p->interleave_ways) { > rc = cxl_region_setup_targets(cxlr); > if (rc) > - goto err_decrement; > + return rc; > p->state = CXL_CONFIG_ACTIVE; > } > > @@ -1762,12 +1768,6 @@ static int cxl_region_attach(struct cxl_region *cxlr, > }; > > return 0; > - > -err_decrement: > - p->nr_targets--; > - cxled->pos = -1; > - p->targets[pos] = NULL; > - return rc; > } > > static int cxl_region_detach(struct cxl_endpoint_decoder *cxled) > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* RE: [PATCH v2] cxl/region: don't try to cleanup after cxl_region_setup_targets() fails 2023-10-11 14:51 ` [PATCH v2] " Jim Harris ` (2 preceding siblings ...) 2023-10-13 16:57 ` Dave Jiang @ 2023-10-24 23:01 ` Dan Williams 2023-10-25 1:37 ` Jim Harris 3 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Dan Williams @ 2023-10-24 23:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Jim Harris, linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, dan.carpenter@linaro.org, dan.j.williams@intel.com Jim Harris wrote: > Patch 5e42bcbc ("cxl/region: decrement ->nr_targets on error in > cxl_region_attach()") tried to avoid 'eiw' initialization errors when > ->nr_targets exceeded 16, by just decrementing ->nr_targets when > cxl_region_setup_targets() failed. Patch 86987c76 ("cxl/region: Cleanup > target list on attach error") extended that cleanup to also clear > cxled->pos and p->targets[pos]. > > The initialization error was incidentally fixed separately by patch > 8d4285425 ("cxl/region: Fix port setup uninitialized variable warnings") > which was merged a few days after 5e42bcbc. Patch looks good, but I did reflow the above paragraphs to have commit references per checkpatch expectations. I believe it did not flag them for you as it did not recognize "Patch <SHA>" as referring to a commit: Commit 5e42bcbc3fef ("cxl/region: decrement ->nr_targets on error in cxl_region_attach()") tried to avoid 'eiw' initialization errors when ->nr_targets exceeded 16, by just decrementing ->nr_targets when cxl_region_setup_targets() failed. Commit 86987c766276 ("cxl/region: Cleanup target list on attach error") extended that cleanup to also clear cxled->pos and p->targets[pos]. The initialization error was incidentally fixed separately by: Commit 8d4285425714 ("cxl/region: Fix port setup uninitialized variable warnings") which was merged a few days after 5e42bcbc3fef. I also went ahead and added: Fixes: 5e42bcbc3fef ("cxl/region: decrement ->nr_targets on error in cxl_region_attach()") Cc: <stable@vger.kernel.org> Otherwise, good find, thanks Jim! ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: [PATCH v2] cxl/region: don't try to cleanup after cxl_region_setup_targets() fails 2023-10-24 23:01 ` Dan Williams @ 2023-10-25 1:37 ` Jim Harris 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Jim Harris @ 2023-10-25 1:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Dan Williams; +Cc: linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, dan.carpenter@linaro.org On Tue, Oct 24, 2023 at 04:01:19PM -0700, Dan Williams wrote: > > Patch looks good, but I did reflow the above paragraphs to have commit > references per checkpatch expectations. I believe it did not flag them > for you as it did not recognize "Patch <SHA>" as referring to a commit: > > Commit 5e42bcbc3fef ("cxl/region: decrement ->nr_targets on error in > cxl_region_attach()") tried to avoid 'eiw' initialization errors when > ->nr_targets exceeded 16, by just decrementing ->nr_targets when > cxl_region_setup_targets() failed. > > Commit 86987c766276 ("cxl/region: Cleanup target list on attach error") > extended that cleanup to also clear cxled->pos and p->targets[pos]. The > initialization error was incidentally fixed separately by: > Commit 8d4285425714 ("cxl/region: Fix port setup uninitialized variable > warnings") which was merged a few days after 5e42bcbc3fef. > > I also went ahead and added: > > Fixes: 5e42bcbc3fef ("cxl/region: decrement ->nr_targets on error in cxl_region_attach()") > Cc: <stable@vger.kernel.org> > Thanks Dan, I'll keep an eye out for these in the future. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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