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From: Alexey Kardashevskiy <aik@amd.com>
To: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>
Cc: Bjorn Helgaas <helgaas@kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	Gregory Price <gregory.price@memverge.com>,
	Ira Weiny <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	Jonathan Cameron <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Alison Schofield <alison.schofield@intel.com>,
	Vishal Verma <vishal.l.verma@intel.com>,
	Dave Jiang <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	"Li, Ming" <ming4.li@intel.com>, Hillf Danton <hdanton@sina.com>,
	Ben Widawsky <bwidawsk@kernel.org>,
	linuxarm@huawei.com, linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 12/16] PCI/DOE: Create mailboxes on device enumeration
Date: Tue, 28 Feb 2023 18:24:41 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <66ca8670-6bd2-a446-d393-3c327aa45ccc@amd.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20230228054353.GA32202@wunner.de>

On 28/2/23 16:43, Lukas Wunner wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 28, 2023 at 12:18:07PM +1100, Alexey Kardashevskiy wrote:
>> On 11/2/23 07:25, Lukas Wunner wrote:
>>> For the same reason a DOE instance cannot be shared between the PCI core
>>> and a driver.
>>
>> And we want this sharing why? Any example will do. Thanks,
> 
> The PCI core is going to perform CMA/SPDM authentication when a device
> gets enumerated (PCIe r6.0 sec 6.31).  That's the main motivation
> to lift DOE mailbox creation into the PCI core.  It's not mentioned
> here explicitly because I want the patch to stand on its own.
> CMA/SPDM support will be submitted separately.

I was going the opposite direction with avoiding adding this into the 
PCI core as 1) the pci_dev struct is already 2K  and 2) it is a niche 
feature and  3) I wanted this CMA/SPDM session setup to be platform 
specific as on our platform the SPDM support requires some devices to be 
probed before we can any SPDM.


> A driver that later on gets bound to the device should be allowed
> to talk to it via DOE as well, possibly even sharing the same DOE
> mailboxes used by the PCI core.
> 
> Patches for CMA/SPDM are under development on this branch:
> 
> https://github.com/l1k/linux/commits/doe

yes, thanks! Lots of reading :)


>>> Currently a DOE instance cannot be shared by multiple drivers because
>>> each driver creates its own pci_doe_mb struct for a given DOE instance.
>>
>> Sorry for my ignorance but why/how/when would a device have multiple drivers
>> bound? Or it only one driver at the time but we also want DOE MBs to survive
>> switching to another (different or newer) driver?
> 
> Conceivably, a driver may have the need to talk to multiple devices
> via DOE, even ones it's not bound to.  (E.g. devices in its ancestry
> or children.)

Ah ok. Well, a parent device could look for the DOE MB in a child using 
devres_find(), this requirement alone does not require moving things to 
the PCI core and potentially allows it to be a module which could be a 
better way as distros could have it always enabled but it would not 
waste any memory on my laptop when not loaded. Thanks,


-- 
Alexey


  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-28  7:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 62+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-10 20:25 [PATCH v3 00/16] Collection of DOE material Lukas Wunner
2023-02-10 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 01/16] cxl/pci: Fix CDAT retrieval on big endian Lukas Wunner
2023-02-11  0:22   ` Dan Williams
2023-02-19 13:03     ` Lukas Wunner
2023-02-14 11:15   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-14 13:51     ` Lukas Wunner
2023-02-14 15:45       ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-28  2:53   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2023-02-28  8:24     ` Lukas Wunner
2023-02-28 12:08       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2023-02-10 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 02/16] cxl/pci: Handle truncated CDAT header Lukas Wunner
2023-02-11  0:40   ` Dan Williams
2023-02-11  9:34     ` Lukas Wunner
2023-02-14 11:16   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-15  1:41   ` Li, Ming
2023-02-10 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 03/16] cxl/pci: Handle truncated CDAT entries Lukas Wunner
2023-02-11  0:50   ` Dan Williams
2023-02-11 10:56     ` Lukas Wunner
2023-02-14 11:30   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-10 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 04/16] cxl/pci: Handle excessive CDAT length Lukas Wunner
2023-02-11  1:04   ` Dan Williams
2023-02-14 11:33   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-16 10:26     ` Lukas Wunner
2023-02-17 10:01       ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-10 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 05/16] PCI/DOE: Silence WARN splat with CONFIG_DEBUG_OBJECTS=y Lukas Wunner
2023-02-10 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 06/16] PCI/DOE: Fix memory leak " Lukas Wunner
2023-02-11  1:06   ` Dan Williams
2023-03-01  1:51   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2023-02-10 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 07/16] PCI/DOE: Provide synchronous API and use it internally Lukas Wunner
2023-02-15  1:45   ` Li, Ming
2023-02-28 18:58   ` Davidlohr Bueso
2023-02-10 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 08/16] cxl/pci: Use synchronous API for DOE Lukas Wunner
2023-02-10 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 09/16] PCI/DOE: Make asynchronous API private Lukas Wunner
2023-02-15  1:48   ` Li, Ming
2023-02-10 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 10/16] PCI/DOE: Deduplicate mailbox flushing Lukas Wunner
2023-02-14 11:36   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-15  5:07   ` Li, Ming
2023-02-10 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 11/16] PCI/DOE: Allow mailbox creation without devres management Lukas Wunner
2023-02-14 11:51   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-15  5:17   ` Li, Ming
2023-02-10 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 12/16] PCI/DOE: Create mailboxes on device enumeration Lukas Wunner
2023-02-15  2:07   ` Li, Ming
2023-02-28  1:18   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2023-02-28  1:39     ` Dan Williams
2023-02-28  5:43     ` Lukas Wunner
2023-02-28  7:24       ` Alexey Kardashevskiy [this message]
2023-02-28 10:42         ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-03-02 20:22         ` Lukas Wunner
2023-03-07  1:55           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2023-04-03  0:55           ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2023-02-10 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 13/16] cxl/pci: Use CDAT DOE mailbox created by PCI core Lukas Wunner
2023-02-10 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 14/16] PCI/DOE: Make mailbox creation API private Lukas Wunner
2023-02-15  2:13   ` Li, Ming
2023-02-10 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 15/16] PCI/DOE: Relax restrictions on request and response size Lukas Wunner
2023-02-15  5:05   ` Li, Ming
2023-02-15 11:49     ` Lukas Wunner
2023-02-10 20:25 ` [PATCH v3 16/16] cxl/pci: Rightsize CDAT response allocation Lukas Wunner
2023-02-14 13:05   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-16  0:56   ` Ira Weiny
2023-02-16  8:03     ` Lukas Wunner
2023-02-28  1:45   ` Alexey Kardashevskiy
2023-02-28  5:55     ` Lukas Wunner

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