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From: <dan.j.williams@intel.com>
To: "Cheatham, Benjamin" <benjamin.cheatham@amd.com>,
	<dan.j.williams@intel.com>, <linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: CXL Isolation Support
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2026 13:52:32 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <698511207f721_55fa10016@dwillia2-mobl4.notmuch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <75eb28c0-e696-470f-8cee-c47bae6ee15d@amd.com>

Cheatham, Benjamin wrote:
> On 2/2/2026 2:20 PM, dan.j.williams@intel.com wrote:
[..]
> > I am interested in the isolation for CXL accelerator discussion. I am
> > not interested in muddying through isolation for the general memory
> > expander use case without engagement from deployment use cases.
> 
> I can't remember any internal discussions about using isolation for only accelerators so
> I'll need to check and see if that's something we're interested in.
> 
> As for the memory expander case: would something like the N_PRIVATE
> node set Gregory sent out [1] be enough to change your mind on this?
> It doesn't provide the same guarantees as a type 2 set would, but it
> does limit the usage of CXL memory to be more like type 2 memory.

It is not clear to me that can provide the guarantees needed to make
isolation useful. It is still fundamentally a core-mm services
capability. That effort is not well served if it needs to handle the
constraint of: "consider that at any moment this entire node starts
throwing poison, the system needs to stay alive through that event".

> Regardless, I (really) won't bring it up again until we have someone who wants to deploy this thing.

I am always open to reconsidering positions in the face of new evidence.
The workable aspect of a direct-attached-accelerator first approach is
that the accelerator driver has direct ownership of the error model.
Compare that to the core-mm which only considers a page failure model,
not a node failure model. The direct-attached-accelerator constraint is
enough to get some core enabling in the pipeline. Expansions from that
baseline can be evaluated later.

  reply	other threads:[~2026-02-05 21:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-01-30 19:47 RFC: CXL Isolation Support Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-01-30 21:30 ` Gregory Price
2026-02-02 15:59   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-02 16:50     ` Gregory Price
2026-02-02 17:31       ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-02-02 17:30   ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-02-02 19:52     ` Gregory Price
2026-02-02 15:52 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-02-02 19:28 ` Vikram Sethi
2026-02-02 20:20 ` dan.j.williams
2026-02-05 20:49   ` Cheatham, Benjamin
2026-02-05 21:52     ` dan.j.williams [this message]
2026-02-05 22:54       ` Gregory Price

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