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From: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
To: "Philippe Mathieu-Daudé" <philmd@linaro.org>
Cc: "Jonathan Cameron" <Jonathan.Cameron@huawei.com>,
	"Thomas Huth" <thuth@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, "Michael Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	"Ben Widawsky" <bwidawsk@kernel.org>,
	linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, linuxarm@huawei.com,
	"Ira Weiny" <ira.weiny@intel.com>,
	"Gregory Price" <gourry.memverge@gmail.com>,
	"Mike Maslenkin" <mike.maslenkin@gmail.com>,
	"Dave Jiang" <dave.jiang@intel.com>,
	"Marc-André Lureau" <marcandre.lureau@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 8/8] hw/mem/cxl_type3: Add CXL RAS Error Injection Support.
Date: Mon, 27 Feb 2023 10:40:07 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87sfertpjc.fsf@pond.sub.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <45b86050-0f0b-d222-c32f-9d6f23246574@linaro.org> ("Philippe Mathieu-Daudé"'s message of "Fri, 24 Feb 2023 20:02:59 +0100")

Philippe Mathieu-Daudé <philmd@linaro.org> writes:

> On 23/2/23 15:27, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
>> On Thu, 23 Feb 2023 08:37:46 +0100
>> Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> wrote:
>>> Whenever you use a poisoned macro in a conditional, all the code
>>> generated for this .json file (we call it a "QAPI schema module")
>>> becomes target-dependent.  The QAPI code generator itself is blissfully
>>> unaware of this.
>>>
>>> Since target-dependent code needs to be compiled differently, the build
>>> process needs to be know which modules are target-dependent.  We do this
>>> in one of the stupidest ways that could possibly work: a module is
>>> target-dependent if its name ends with "-target".  There are just two
>>> right now: qapi/machine-target.json and qapi/misc-target.json.
>>>
>>> The logic resides in qapi/meson.build.  Look for
>>>
>>>      if module.endswith('-target')
>>
>> Thanks for all the pointers.
>>
>>> Questions?
>>>
>> Is it sensible to make the cxl stuff all target dependent and do the following?
>> I like that we can get rid of the stubs if we do this but I'm sure there are
>> disadvantages. Only alternative I can currently see is continue to have
>> stubs and not make the qmp commands conditional on them doing anything useful.
>
> I still don't understand what is the target-dependent part of CXL.
>
> IIUC CXL depends on PCIe which isn't target dependent.

As far as I can tell, the target-dependent part of CXL is the macro
CONFIG_CXL :)

Consider a device model implemented in perfectly target-independent
code, to be linked only into some qemu-system-TARGET.  How do we do
that?

We put a 'config FOO' section in the appropriate Kconfig, and select it
from the target's Kconfig for the targets that want it.  We add device
model sources to Meson source set softmmu_ss when CONFIG_FOO.

This puts CONFIG_FOO=y into the TARGET-softmmu-config-devices.mak, and
#define CONFIG_FOO 1 into TARGET-softmmu-config-devices.h.  It also puts
#pragma GCC poison CONFIG_FOO into config-poison.h.

Note the two CONFIG_FOO have subtly different meaning:

* The make variable means "there is an enabled target that has FOO
  enabled".  It gets propagated to Meson.

* The C macro means "the current target has FOO enabled".  It therefore
  must not be used in target-independent code.  That's why we poison it
  in config-poison.h.

Note that the device model code has no use for C macro CONFIG_FOO.  It
remains target-independent as it should.

Now consider how to have the QAPI schema provide something for FOO.

If we make it a QAPI schema module of its own, we can arrange for it to
be linked only into the qemu-system-TARGET that have the device model,
just like the device model code.  We haven't tried this for individual
devices, only for whole subsystems like PCI.

If we don't make it a module of its own, we have two choices:

* We use 'if': 'CONFIG_FOO'.  This is actually the C macro.  The module
  becomes target-dependent.  We compile the code generated for the
  module separately for each target.

* We make it unconditional.  The module can remain target-independent.
  The code generated for FOO's QAPI schema is linked unconditionally,
  even when the target doesn't need it.  Any references to handwritten
  FOO code need to be satisfied with stubs.

I dislike both.  Existing usage seems to prefer "unconditional schema".
Sticking to that is okay.


  reply	other threads:[~2023-02-27  9:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-02-21 15:21 [PATCH v5 0/8] hw/cxl: RAS error emulation and injection Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-21 15:21 ` [PATCH v5 1/8] hw/pci/aer: Implement PCI_ERR_UNCOR_MASK register Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-21 15:21 ` [PATCH v5 2/8] hw/pci/aer: Add missing routing for AER errors Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-21 15:21 ` [PATCH v5 3/8] hw/pci-bridge/cxl_root_port: Wire up AER Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-21 15:21 ` [PATCH v5 4/8] hw/pci-bridge/cxl_root_port: Wire up MSI Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-21 15:21 ` [PATCH v5 5/8] hw/mem/cxl-type3: Add AER extended capability Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-21 15:21 ` [PATCH v5 6/8] hw/cxl: Fix endian issues in CXL RAS capability defaults / masks Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-21 22:06   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-02-21 15:21 ` [PATCH v5 7/8] hw/pci/aer: Make PCIE AER error injection facility available for other emulation to use Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-21 22:08   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-02-21 15:21 ` [PATCH v5 8/8] hw/mem/cxl_type3: Add CXL RAS Error Injection Support Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-21 15:48   ` Dave Jiang
2023-02-21 22:15   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-02-22 14:53     ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-22 15:32       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-02-22 16:49         ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-22 18:16           ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-02-23  6:58             ` Thomas Huth
2023-02-23  7:37               ` Markus Armbruster
2023-02-23 14:27                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-24 17:37                   ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-02-24 19:02                   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2023-02-27  9:40                     ` Markus Armbruster [this message]
2023-02-22 18:28       ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-27  4:54   ` Markus Armbruster
2023-10-31 17:55     ` Jonathan Cameron
2023-11-02  6:47       ` Markus Armbruster

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