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From: Anisa Su <anisa.su887@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
Cc: Anisa Su <anisa.su887@gmail.com>,
	sashiko-bot@kernel.org, sashiko-reviews@lists.linux.dev,
	nvdimm@lists.linux.dev, linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v12 3/8] cxl/cdat: Gather DSMAS data for DCD partitions
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2026 21:29:58 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <arSnRvG0VGSMHSBM@4470NRD-ASU.ssi.samsung.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260922003402.5134db4a@jic23-hlaptop>

On Tue, Sep 22, 2026 at 12:34:02AM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> On Wed, 5 Aug 2026 01:30:16 -0700
> Anisa Su <anisa.su887@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Aug 04, 2026 at 01:07:48AM +0100, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> > > On Fri, 31 Jul 2026 09:02:49 +0000
> > > sashiko-bot@kernel.org wrote:
> > >   
> > > > Thank you for your contribution! Sashiko AI review found 2 potential issue(s) to consider:
> > > > - [Medium] The commit message claims to extract and store the 'read only' attribute from DSMAS tables, but this logic is completely missing from the code.  
> > > 
> > > Given it will make a lot of difference to a user if they think they have writeable
> > > memory that isn't - I think we probably do want to have readonly here.
> > >   
> > I did some digging: it seems in v8, the read only flag was gathered and
> > exposed in sysfs, but dropped during the region -> partition rework.
> > 
> > v8 of this commit used to do:
> >     dent->read_only = dsmas->flags & ACPI_CDAT_DSMAS_READ_ONLY;
> >     ...
> >     mds->dc_region[i].read_only = dent->read_only;
> > 
> >     https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241210-dcd-type2-upstream-v8-6-812852504400@intel.com/
> > 
> > and a following patch exposed it, with a documented ABI:
> > 
> >   https://lore.kernel.org/all/20241210-dcd-type2-upstream-v8-7-812852504400@intel.com/
> > 
> >     /sys/bus/cxl/devices/memX/dcY/size
> >     /sys/bus/cxl/devices/memX/dcY/read_only
> >     /sys/bus/cxl/devices/memX/dcY/shareable
> >     /sys/bus/cxl/devices/memX/dcY/qos_class
> > 
> > In v9 dynamic capacity moved from its own dc_region[] array and dcY/
> > sysfs directory to the generic partition model:
> > 
> >   https://lore.kernel.org/all/20250413-dcd-type2-upstream-v9-3-1d4911a0b365@intel.com/
> > 
> > size and qos_class survived that move because ram and pmem already have
> > them. read_only and shareable did not, because the generic partition
> > model had nowhere to put attributes that only dynamic capacity has, but
> > the commit message survived the rework.
> > 
> > More specifically, read_only was dropped from both the sysfs commit and
> > this commit. shareable was dropped only from the sysfs commit, but still
> > read from the DSMAS entry in v9 of this commit. Not sure why though; I
> > didn't see any consumers of the attribute. Oh well... We use it now
> > since shared extents are supported to check if an extent marked shared
> > is actually in a shared partition.
> > 
> > So TLDR; I've removed the "read only" part from the commit message. But
> > let me know if you think it should be re-introduced?
> > 
> > I agree with what you said about it being important for a user to know
> > whether a partition is read only. Some things to consider:
> > 
> > - The partition model has no precedent for a DC only attribute.
> >   dynamic_ram_1/ currently exposes size and qos_class, the same two that
> >   ram/ and pmem/ expose. Adding read_only there would be the first
> >   attribute that exists for one partition mode and not the others.
> > 
> > - shareable is in exactly the same position. It is gathered and used
> >   internally but not exposed anywhere, so if we are adding one of these
> >   back we should probably decide about both.
> 
> I vaguely recall the discussion on this ending up with we'd call the
> partition something different to reflect the extra property.  
> 
> dynamic_readonly_1 / dynamic_sharedram_1 maybe?  Argument being
> that these properties are as different from normal RAM as persistent
> memory is.
> 
Yeah I think we discussed making it its own partition mode but I don't think there
was a strong consensus, just that we agreed it should be exposed somewhere,
somehow...

I am leaning towards just putting it under dynamic_ram_1 even though
these attributes would only exist for dynamic_ram mode:

/sys/bus/cxl/devices/memX/dynamic_ram_1/shareable
/sys/bus/cxl/devices/memX/dynamic_ram_1/read_only

Mainly because if we go up to 8 partitions, we would have
(dynamic_ram, dynamic_shared, dynamic_readonly, dynamic_shared_readonly) * 8.
And NDCTL would have to know how to handle creating each type.

I also don't see anything in the code that makes it terrible:
- each partition mode has its own attribute array and visibility callback
  function, so it doesn't affect ram/pmem modes

I brought it up because I wasn't sure if there was a specific reason why
shareable and read_only weren't carried over after the partition
rework. From a code standpoint, it seems fine to me?
I assumed it was so all partitions would share common sub-attributes
but I guess I shouldn't have assumed...

> > 
> > - I don't think the DSMAS Flags bit 6 (read only) is specific to DCD?
> 
> In theory yes, in practice there isn't a path for non DCD to actually
> get the data in place and transtion to read only so maybe an expensive
> source of zeros?  So yes allowed but not much use to anyone so we
> won't see it.  
> 
Mmm very true. You might just clarifying this point here but just to make
sure we're on the same page: I dropped the R_O part of the series and deferred
it for the future because it includes implementing write rejection for
r_o partitions which IMO can be done after the core functionality is in.

Thanks,
Anisa
> >   It describes any device scoped memory range, so a read only ram or pmem
> >   partition is expressible in CDAT today and the driver ignores it.
> >   Maybe it should be exposed in sysfs for every partition
> >   rather than only on dynamic_ram_1? Which probably makes it a generic CDAT/partition
> >   patch rather than something for this series.
> > 
> Jonathan
> 

  reply	other threads:[~2026-09-24  4:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-31  8:48 [PATCH v12 0/8] DCD Prep Series Anisa Su
2026-07-31  8:48 ` [PATCH v12 1/8] cxl/mbox: Flag support for Dynamic Capacity Devices (DCD) Anisa Su
2026-08-03 18:03   ` Dave Jiang
2026-08-03 21:30   ` Alison Schofield
2026-08-03 23:12     ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-08-04 15:45       ` Gregory Price
2026-08-04 15:45   ` Gregory Price
2026-08-04 18:10     ` Anisa Su
2026-08-04 16:55   ` Alison Schofield
2026-08-04 18:13     ` Anisa Su
2026-07-31  8:48 ` [PATCH v12 2/8] cxl/mem: Read dynamic capacity configuration from the device Anisa Su
2026-07-31  9:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-04 20:30     ` Anisa Su
2026-08-03 21:52   ` Alison Schofield
2026-08-04  9:12     ` Anisa Su
2026-08-04 16:00       ` Gregory Price
2026-08-21 18:55       ` Alison Schofield
     [not found]   ` <anBkfosW9jKyOIr1@MWDK4CY14F>
2026-08-03 22:11     ` Anisa Su
2026-08-03 23:55   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-08-04  9:54     ` Anisa Su
2026-07-31  8:48 ` [PATCH v12 3/8] cxl/cdat: Gather DSMAS data for DCD partitions Anisa Su
2026-07-31  9:02   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-04  0:07     ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-08-05  8:30       ` Anisa Su
2026-09-21 23:34         ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-24  4:29           ` Anisa Su [this message]
2026-09-25 19:19             ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-09-28 23:46               ` Anisa Su
2026-08-03 22:56   ` Alison Schofield
2026-08-05  6:58     ` Anisa Su
2026-07-31  8:48 ` [PATCH v12 4/8] cxl/events: Split event msgnum configuration from irq setup Anisa Su
2026-08-03 23:01   ` Alison Schofield
2026-07-31  8:48 ` [PATCH v12 5/8] cxl/pci: Factor out interrupt policy check Anisa Su
2026-08-03 23:55   ` Alison Schofield
2026-08-06 12:27     ` Anisa Su
2026-07-31  8:48 ` [PATCH v12 6/8] cxl/mem: Configure dynamic capacity interrupts Anisa Su
2026-07-31  9:04   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-01  9:30     ` Anisa Su
2026-08-04  0:25       ` Alison Schofield
2026-08-06 23:27         ` Anisa Su
2026-08-04  0:13   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-08-04  0:34   ` Alison Schofield
2026-08-06 22:11     ` Anisa Su
2026-07-31  8:48 ` [PATCH v12 7/8] cxl/core: Return endpoint decoder information from region search Anisa Su
2026-07-31  9:01   ` sashiko-bot
2026-08-04  1:02   ` Alison Schofield
2026-07-31  8:48 ` [PATCH v12 8/8] cxl/core: Enforce partition order/simplify partition calls Anisa Su
2026-08-04  0:16   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-08-04  1:37   ` Alison Schofield

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