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From: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
To: Dongsheng Yang <dongsheng.yang@linux.dev>
Cc: agk@redhat.com, snitzer@kernel.org, axboe@kernel.dk, hch@lst.de,
	 dan.j.williams@intel.com, Jonathan.Cameron@Huawei.com,
	 linux-block@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	 linux-cxl@vger.kernel.org, nvdimm@lists.linux.dev,
	 dm-devel@lists.linux.dev
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1 00/11] dm-pcache – persistent-memory cache for block devices
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2025 17:45:18 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f0c46aba-9756-5f05-a843-51bc4898a313@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43e84a3e-f574-4c97-9f33-35fcb3751e01@linux.dev>

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On Mon, 30 Jun 2025, Dongsheng Yang wrote:

> Hi Mikulas,
> 
>     The reason why we don’t release the spinlock here is that if we do, the
> subtree could change.
> 
> For example, in the `fixup_overlap_contained()` function, we may need to split
> a certain `cache_key`, and that requires allocating a new `cache_key`.
> 
> If we drop the spinlock at this point and then re-acquire it after the
> allocation, the subtree might already have been modified, and we cannot safely
> continue with the split operation.

Yes, I understand this.

>     In this case, we would have to restart the entire subtree search and walk.
> But the new walk might require more memory—or less,
> 
> so it's very difficult to know in advance how much memory will be needed
> before acquiring the spinlock.
> 
>     So allocating memory inside a spinlock is actually a more direct and
> feasible approach. `GFP_NOWAIT` fails too easily, maybe `GFP_ATOMIC` is more
> appropriate.

Even GFP_ATOMIC can fail. And it is not appropriate to return error and 
corrupt data when GFP_ATOMIC fails.

> What do you think?

If you need memory, you should drop the spinlock, allocate the memory 
(with mempool_alloc(GFP_NOIO)), attach the allocated memory to "struct 
pcache_request" and retry the request (call pcache_cache_handle_req 
again).

When you retry the request, there are these possibilities:
* you don't need the memory anymore - then, you just free it
* you need the amount of memory that was allocated - you just proceed 
  while holding the spinlock
* you need more memory than what you allocated - you drop the spinlock, 
  free the memory, allocate a larger memory block and retry again

Mikulas

  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-30 15:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-06-24  7:33 [PATCH v1 00/11] dm-pcache – persistent-memory cache for block devices Dongsheng Yang
2025-06-24  7:33 ` [PATCH v1 01/11] dm-pcache: add pcache_internal.h Dongsheng Yang
2025-07-01 13:43   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-24  7:33 ` [PATCH v1 02/11] dm-pcache: add backing device management Dongsheng Yang
2025-07-01 13:56   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-07  6:25     ` Dongsheng Yang
2025-06-24  7:33 ` [PATCH v1 03/11] dm-pcache: add cache device Dongsheng Yang
2025-07-01 14:07   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-06-24  7:33 ` [PATCH v1 04/11] dm-pcache: add segment layer Dongsheng Yang
2025-07-01 14:46   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-07  6:24     ` Dongsheng Yang
2025-06-24  7:33 ` [PATCH v1 05/11] dm-pcache: add cache_segment Dongsheng Yang
2025-07-01 14:59   ` Jonathan Cameron
2025-07-07  6:24     ` Dongsheng Yang
2025-06-24  7:33 ` [PATCH v1 06/11] dm-pcache: add cache_writeback Dongsheng Yang
2025-06-24  7:33 ` [PATCH v1 07/11] dm-pcache: add cache_gc Dongsheng Yang
2025-06-24  7:33 ` [PATCH v1 08/11] dm-pcache: add cache_key Dongsheng Yang
2025-06-24  7:33 ` [PATCH v1 09/11] dm-pcache: add cache_req Dongsheng Yang
2025-06-24  7:33 ` [PATCH v1 10/11] dm-pcache: add cache core Dongsheng Yang
2025-06-24  7:33 ` [PATCH v1 11/11] dm-pcache: initial dm-pcache target Dongsheng Yang
2025-06-30 13:30 ` [PATCH v1 00/11] dm-pcache – persistent-memory cache for block devices Mikulas Patocka
2025-06-30 13:40   ` Dongsheng Yang
2025-06-30 14:16     ` Dongsheng Yang
2025-06-30 15:45       ` Mikulas Patocka [this message]
2025-06-30 16:30         ` Dongsheng Yang

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