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From: Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>
To: Rob Herring <robherring2@gmail.com>
Cc: Dave Martin <dave.martin@linaro.org>,
	"devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org"
	<devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] ARM: vexpress: Add DT support in v2m
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 16:37:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1321461458.3137.374.camel@hornet.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4EC3E446.4030608@gmail.com>

On Wed, 2011-11-16 at 16:26 +0000, Rob Herring wrote:
> On 11/16/2011 09:44 AM, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 06:27:04PM +0000, Pawel Moll wrote:
> >> This patch provides hooks for DT-based tile machine implementations
> >> and adds Device Tree description for the motherboard.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Pawel Moll <pawel.moll@arm.com>
> >> ---
> >>  Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/vexpress    |   92 ++++++++++
> >>  arch/arm/boot/dts/vexpress-v2m-legacy.dtsi        |  190 +++++++++++++++++++++
> >>  arch/arm/mach-vexpress/Kconfig                    |    4 +
> >>  arch/arm/mach-vexpress/core.h                     |    9 +
> >>  arch/arm/mach-vexpress/include/mach/motherboard.h |    8 +
> >>  arch/arm/mach-vexpress/v2m.c                      |  140 +++++++++++++++-
> >>  6 files changed, 442 insertions(+), 1 deletions(-)
> >>  create mode 100644 Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/vexpress
> >>  create mode 100644 arch/arm/boot/dts/vexpress-v2m-legacy.dtsi
> >>
> >> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/vexpress b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/vexpress
> > 
> > [...]
> > 
> >> +Required properties in the root node:
> >> +- compatible value:
> >> +  - for motherboard in "legacy" mode:
> >> +	compatible = "arm,vexpress-<model>", "arm,vexpress-legacy", "arm-vexpress";
> >> +  - for motherboard in "RS1" mode:
> >> +	compatible = "arm,vexpress-<model>", "arm-vexpress";
> > 
> > So, we have:
> > 
> > arm,vexpress-* implies arm,vexpress
> > arm,vexpress-* may imply arm,vexpress-legacy
> > arm,vexpress-legacy implies arm,vexpress
> > 
> > This means we have no bounded test for RS1-only features:
> > the needed test is
> > "compatible(node, "arm,vexpress") && !compatible(node, "arm,vexpress-legacy")
> > 
> > Unfortunately, if there is someday an "rs2" memory map, that will also match
> > the above.  Using "inverse compatibility" in this way feels dangerous,
> > because the condition will pass for an arbitrary set of future conditions
> > that we haven't imagined yet.
> > 
> > This means it's, impossible even in principle to panic the kernel cleanly if
> > presented with a device tree for a platform variant which is too new for the
> > kernel to support.
> > 
> > 
> > Can we instead have a specific "arm,vexpress-rs1"?
> > 
> > 	compatible = "arm,vexpress-<model>", "arm-vexpress-rs1", "arm-vexpress";
> > 
> > Then, we can be exact about compatibility: universal features are compatible
> > with "arm,vexpress"; memory-map-specific features are compatible with either
> > "arm,vexpress-legacy" or "arm,vexpress-rs1".
>
> Really, legacy is a bad name. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_gustibus_non_est_disputandum ;-)

This is de-facto name we use in ARM. See:
http://infocenter.arm.com/help/topic/com.arm.doc.dui0447e/ch04s02s01.html

> If you defined the property when the
> original vexpress was designed, it never would have had legacy in the
> name. Generally speaking you never change bindings on old platforms.
> 
> So I would have "arm,vexpress" mean legacy and "arm,vexpress-rs1" be the
> new memory map.

I'd rather second Dave's idea of having

> > 	compatible = "arm,vexpress-<model>", "arm-vexpress-rs1", "arm-vexpress";

and

>> +	compatible = "arm,vexpress-<model>", "arm,vexpress-legacy", "arm-vexpress";

Cheers!

Paweł



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  reply	other threads:[~2011-11-16 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-11-11 18:27 [PATCH 0/5] Versatile Express DT support, take 2 Pawel Moll
2011-11-11 18:27 ` [PATCH 1/5] ARM: vexpress: Get rid of MMIO_P2V Pawel Moll
     [not found]   ` <1321036026-23411-2-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 15:35     ` Dave Martin
2011-11-16 16:16       ` Pawel Moll
     [not found]         ` <1321460205.3137.352.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 17:28           ` Dave Martin
2011-11-16 17:30             ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-17  7:02               ` Ryan Harkin
2011-11-17 15:43     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-11-18 12:20       ` Pawel Moll
     [not found]         ` <1321618848.24216.322.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-18 17:44           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-11-11 18:27 ` [PATCH 2/5] ARM: vexpress: Remove platform SMP functions from ct_desc Pawel Moll
     [not found]   ` <1321036026-23411-3-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-17 15:31     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-11-18 12:20       ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-11 18:27 ` [PATCH 3/5] ARM: vexpress: Add DT support in v2m Pawel Moll
     [not found]   ` <1321036026-23411-4-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 15:44     ` Dave Martin
     [not found]       ` <20111116154402.GE2073-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 16:26         ` Rob Herring
2011-11-16 16:37           ` Pawel Moll [this message]
     [not found]             ` <1321461458.3137.374.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 16:59               ` Rob Herring
2011-11-16 17:07                 ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-16 17:37                   ` Pawel Moll
     [not found]                     ` <1321465054.3137.386.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 19:14                       ` Dave Martin
     [not found]                   ` <1321463271.3137.380.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 17:39                     ` Dave Martin
     [not found]                       ` <20111116173945.GG2073-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 17:50                         ` Dave Martin
2011-11-16 17:55                           ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-17 15:53                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-11-18 12:20                       ` Pawel Moll
     [not found]                         ` <1321618849.24216.323.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-18 17:49                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-11-16 16:35       ` Pawel Moll
     [not found]         ` <1321461315.3137.371.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 17:57           ` Dave Martin
2011-11-17 13:50             ` Pawel Moll
     [not found]               ` <1321537813.3137.475.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-17 14:41                 ` Dave Martin
2011-11-17 16:05     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
     [not found]       ` <20111117160536.GU9581-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-17 18:37         ` Dave Martin
     [not found]           ` <20111117183726.GE3044-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-18 17:52             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-11-18 12:20       ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-11 18:27 ` [PATCH 4/5] ARM: vexpress: Initial RS1 memory map support Pawel Moll
     [not found]   ` <1321036026-23411-5-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 15:42     ` Dave Martin
2011-11-16 16:28       ` Pawel Moll
     [not found]         ` <1321460897.3137.364.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 18:03           ` Dave Martin
2011-11-17 15:36     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-11-18 12:20       ` Pawel Moll
     [not found]         ` <1321618850.24216.324.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-18 17:56           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-11-11 18:27 ` [PATCH 5/5] ARM: vexpress: DT-based support for CoreTiles Express A5x2 and A9x4 Pawel Moll
     [not found]   ` <1321036026-23411-6-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-11 22:30     ` Rob Herring
2011-11-11 22:54       ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-16 15:36     ` Dave Martin
2011-11-16 16:22       ` Pawel Moll
     [not found]         ` <1321460559.3137.358.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 18:17           ` Dave Martin
     [not found] ` <1321036026-23411-1-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 15:33   ` [PATCH 0/5] Versatile Express DT support, take 2 Dave Martin

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