From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Pawel Moll <pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org"
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Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/5] ARM: vexpress: Add DT support in v2m
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:53:34 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20111117155334.GT9581@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1321463271.3137.380.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 05:07:51PM +0000, Pawel Moll wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-11-16 at 16:59 +0000, Rob Herring wrote:
> > It has nothing to do with taste and obviously documentation changes over
> > time. I'm going to start naming everything with legacy because someday
> > it all will be...
> >
> > It's about how you create compatible strings. They should not be
> > generic, but specific to particular hardware version. If you happen to
> > be compatible with older h/w then you can claim compatibility with that
> > older h/w.
>
> Notice that it's not:
>
> compatible=legacy
>
> not even:
>
> compatible=arm,legacy
>
> It's:
>
> compatible=arm,vexpress-legacy
>
> A specific variant of Versatile Express hardware. It's just that the
> "legacy" word carries some meaning. Would it looked better if it was
> called:
>
> compatible=arm,vexpress-nalatenskap
>
> ? (thanks, google translate ;-)
You're totally failing to understand the point.
The point is that when Versatile Express first came out, it had a memory
map. At this point in time, there was nothing 'legacy' about it, it was
the latest and greatest thing.
If DT support was created at this point, it would have been called
something without 'legacy' in its name.
A year or so on, it's been superseded by something else, and is now called
legacy. The way DT works, you don't go around renaming stuff because it's
become legacy. So, the original DT support still stands using whatever
named properties would have been invented at the time.
So, when we create support for it *now*, we should not be creating a DT
file with properties named as 'legacy'. The fact that it has become
legacy _today_ is irrelevant to DT.
If we follow through the argument that we _should_ name things legacy,
then it follows that we need to constantly patch DT files to rename stuff
to 'legacy' when it's no longer the latest and greatest - and then you
need the right DT file corresponding to the right kernel version.
Again, this is _not_ how DT is supposed to work. DT is about describing
the hardware, not describing the state of something. A DT description
of a hardware system created 10 years ago should still work _today_ even
though the hardware system may now be 'legacy'.
So, get rid of that 'legacy' crap in DT naming. It doesn't belong. Or
we'll start talling the Cortex-A5 stuff 'legacy' right now as well.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2011-11-17 15:53 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2011-11-11 18:27 [PATCH 0/5] Versatile Express DT support, take 2 Pawel Moll
2011-11-11 18:27 ` [PATCH 1/5] ARM: vexpress: Get rid of MMIO_P2V Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1321036026-23411-2-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 15:35 ` Dave Martin
2011-11-16 16:16 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1321460205.3137.352.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 17:28 ` Dave Martin
2011-11-16 17:30 ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-17 7:02 ` Ryan Harkin
2011-11-17 15:43 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-11-18 12:20 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1321618848.24216.322.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-18 17:44 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-11-11 18:27 ` [PATCH 2/5] ARM: vexpress: Remove platform SMP functions from ct_desc Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1321036026-23411-3-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-17 15:31 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-11-18 12:20 ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-11 18:27 ` [PATCH 3/5] ARM: vexpress: Add DT support in v2m Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1321036026-23411-4-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 15:44 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20111116154402.GE2073-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 16:26 ` Rob Herring
2011-11-16 16:37 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1321461458.3137.374.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 16:59 ` Rob Herring
2011-11-16 17:07 ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-16 17:37 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1321465054.3137.386.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 19:14 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <1321463271.3137.380.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 17:39 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20111116173945.GG2073-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 17:50 ` Dave Martin
2011-11-16 17:55 ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-17 15:53 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2011-11-18 12:20 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1321618849.24216.323.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-18 17:49 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-11-16 16:35 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1321461315.3137.371.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 17:57 ` Dave Martin
2011-11-17 13:50 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1321537813.3137.475.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-17 14:41 ` Dave Martin
2011-11-17 16:05 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20111117160536.GU9581-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-17 18:37 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <20111117183726.GE3044-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-18 17:52 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-11-18 12:20 ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-11 18:27 ` [PATCH 4/5] ARM: vexpress: Initial RS1 memory map support Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1321036026-23411-5-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 15:42 ` Dave Martin
2011-11-16 16:28 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1321460897.3137.364.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 18:03 ` Dave Martin
2011-11-17 15:36 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-11-18 12:20 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1321618850.24216.324.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-18 17:56 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2011-11-11 18:27 ` [PATCH 5/5] ARM: vexpress: DT-based support for CoreTiles Express A5x2 and A9x4 Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1321036026-23411-6-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-11 22:30 ` Rob Herring
2011-11-11 22:54 ` Pawel Moll
2011-11-16 15:36 ` Dave Martin
2011-11-16 16:22 ` Pawel Moll
[not found] ` <1321460559.3137.358.camel-okZbbLrgpR/YkXV2EHHjLW3o5bpOHsLO@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 18:17 ` Dave Martin
[not found] ` <1321036026-23411-1-git-send-email-pawel.moll-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2011-11-16 15:33 ` [PATCH 0/5] Versatile Express DT support, take 2 Dave Martin
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