From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux-lFZ/pmaqli7XmaaqVzeoHQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Grant Likely <grant.likely-s3s/WqlpOiPyB63q8FvJNQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Nicolas Pitre <nico-vtqb6HGKxmzR7s880joybQ@public.gmane.org>,
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Subject: Re: Request review of device tree documentation
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2010 08:38:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100614073828.GA6095@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTinwL0XtMNG13inr_1UliOlqZkyr4dlvG-ZGL9JT-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 11:23:45PM -0600, Grant Likely wrote:
> >> Or perhaps the MMU and caches can be turned off for the duration of the
> >> callback.
> >> I don't have the details of ARM MMUs and caches reloaded into my head
> >> yet. Maybe next week...
We've had these kinds of questions in the past. Doing what you're asking
above is not really an option - it requires:
1. disable all IRQs
2. setup 1:1 MMU mappings for code to turn off MMU
(requires new page table)
3. disable imprecise exceptions
4. flush caches and TLBS
5. jump to 1:1 mapping area for code to disable MMU
6. disable caches and mmu
7. call function
8. flush caches and TLBs
9. re-enable caches and mmu
10. re-enable imprecise exceptions
11. switch back to original MMU mappings
12. re-enable all IRQs
This is fine if you don't care at all about interrupt latency.
Unfortunately, most people do care about interrupt latency because
that directly affects interactivity and system performance. The
called function could not enable interrupts or exceptions - as the
CPU vectors are in virtual space, disabling the MMU effectively
makes them disappear.
Moreover, with the MMU and caches disabled, the CPU performance is
extremely poor, so the called function will run slowly.
So, disabling the MMU isn't really viable.
Now, if the external code was fully PIC, we could then run it with
the MMU enabled. However, this wouldn't really help - the external
code could not access any devices without knowledge of how the kernel
setup the V:P translations.
So you'd need to pass some kind of data structure giving locations of
devices to the called code - but then what if the kernel doesn't have
the device mapped?
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2010-06-11 22:59 Request review of device tree documentation Grant Likely
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2010-06-11 23:47 ` Dan Malek
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2010-06-12 2:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-12 4:48 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-12 6:53 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-12 8:19 ` Mitch Bradley
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2010-06-12 10:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-12 10:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-12 16:30 ` Mitch Bradley
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2010-06-12 22:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-13 5:07 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-13 5:39 ` Mitch Bradley
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2010-06-13 5:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-13 6:45 ` Mitch Bradley
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2010-06-13 8:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 5:36 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 20:00 ` Ben Dooks
2010-06-13 8:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 5:23 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-14 7:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
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2010-06-14 7:45 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 9:25 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
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2010-06-14 9:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 9:47 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20100614094740.GB7881-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-14 14:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-14 13:51 ` Nicolas Pitre
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2010-06-14 15:35 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-14 15:58 ` Nicolas Pitre
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2010-06-14 16:16 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 5:02 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-14 12:44 ` David Gibson
2010-06-14 14:59 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 15:08 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-14 16:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-14 16:23 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 16:29 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 16:28 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-14 16:33 ` Jamie Lokier
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2010-06-14 16:58 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 17:26 ` Nicolas Pitre
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2010-06-14 18:20 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 19:40 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 20:08 ` Mark Brown
2010-06-16 6:09 ` Mike Rapoport
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2010-06-16 6:13 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16 6:17 ` Mike Rapoport
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2010-06-16 6:32 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16 6:47 ` Mike Rapoport
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2010-06-16 7:40 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16 9:45 ` Vladimir Pantelic
2010-06-16 10:39 ` Mike Rapoport
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2010-06-16 11:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-16 13:48 ` Jamie Bennett
2010-06-16 14:39 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-16 17:43 ` Tim Bird
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2010-06-16 6:52 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-06-18 22:12 ` Frank Rowand
2010-06-15 2:02 ` David Gibson
2010-06-14 15:51 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-06-13 5:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 5:13 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-14 6:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 6:17 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-12 22:15 ` Olof Johansson
2010-06-12 23:09 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-13 6:47 ` [microblaze-uclinux] " Edgar E. Iglesias
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2010-06-13 20:03 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-14 23:44 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-15 19:25 ` Stephan Gatzka
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