From: Mitch Bradley <wmb-D5eQfiDGL7eakBO8gow8eQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Benjamin Herrenschmidt
<benh-XVmvHMARGAS8U2dJNN8I7kB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org>
Cc: microblaze-uclinux-rVRm/Wmeqae7NGdpmJTKYQ@public.gmane.org,
Dan Malek <ppc6dev-7kUUosv42bfn7oBBQGLwdg@public.gmane.org>,
devicetree-discuss
<devicetree-discuss-uLR06cmDAlY/bJ5BZ2RsiQ@public.gmane.org>,
Jeremy Kerr <jeremy.kerr-Z7WLFzj8eWMS+FvcfC7Uqw@public.gmane.org>,
linuxppc-dev
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Subject: Re: Request review of device tree documentation
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2010 18:48:21 -1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C131195.1000009@firmworks.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1276311487.1962.172.camel@pasglop>
Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Fri, 2010-06-11 at 16:47 -0700, Dan Malek wrote:
>
>> Hi Grant.
>>
>> On Jun 11, 2010, at 3:59 PM, Grant Likely wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I've been doing a bit of work on some introductory level documentation
>>> of the flattened device tree.
>>>
>> Wow, I feel empowered to create device trees now :-)
>> Seriously, I never understood this well and this is a
>> great document.
>>
>> I have one source of confusion. Your first Initial structure
>> example uses 'compatible' to describe the machine, the
>> paragraph below then mentions the 'model' property,
>> and all subsequent examples use model.
>>
>> Does this mean if I use just the single line in the dts,
>> using 'compatible' implies the ARM machine ID? If I
>> have more description I use 'model'?
>>
>
> Normally, "compatible" is what is used for code to match,
> and model is more like a user-visible thingy.
>
Indeed, one common use of "model" - at least in the systems I work on -
is to display the name of the machine in a system identification banner
that the user sees.
> It's possible to peek at 'model' tho, in some cases, I've seen the case
> for example where things are -supposed- to be identical from an arch
> point of view, have the same compatible, but later on, a quirk is found
> and a test against model is used to differentiate. But that's something
> to avoid in general. Better off having multiple strings in "compatible"
> then, one more "generic" to have the BSP match against, and one more
> "specific" that can be used if a quirk is needed.
>
> Of course, it doesn't help that all pseries have "chrp" and nothing else
> as compatible :-) But then, both IBM and Apple have been quite lax with
> their (ab)use of the DT.
>
> Cheers,
> Ben.
>
>
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2010-06-11 22:59 Request review of device tree documentation Grant Likely
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2010-06-11 23:47 ` Dan Malek
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2010-06-12 2:58 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-12 4:48 ` Mitch Bradley [this message]
2010-06-12 6:53 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-12 8:19 ` Mitch Bradley
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2010-06-12 10:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-12 10:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-12 16:30 ` Mitch Bradley
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2010-06-12 22:52 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-13 5:07 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-13 5:39 ` Mitch Bradley
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2010-06-13 5:59 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-13 6:45 ` Mitch Bradley
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2010-06-13 8:29 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 5:36 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 20:00 ` Ben Dooks
2010-06-13 8:57 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 5:23 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-14 7:38 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
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2010-06-14 7:45 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 9:25 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
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2010-06-14 9:36 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 9:47 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
[not found] ` <20100614094740.GB7881-l+eeeJia6m9vn6HldHNs0ANdhmdF6hFW@public.gmane.org>
2010-06-14 14:29 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-14 13:51 ` Nicolas Pitre
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2010-06-14 15:35 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-14 15:58 ` Nicolas Pitre
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2010-06-14 16:16 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 5:02 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-14 12:44 ` David Gibson
2010-06-14 14:59 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 15:08 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-14 16:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-14 16:23 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 16:29 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-14 16:28 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-14 16:33 ` Jamie Lokier
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2010-06-14 16:58 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 17:26 ` Nicolas Pitre
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2010-06-14 18:20 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-14 19:40 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-14 20:08 ` Mark Brown
2010-06-16 6:09 ` Mike Rapoport
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2010-06-16 6:13 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16 6:17 ` Mike Rapoport
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2010-06-16 6:32 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16 6:47 ` Mike Rapoport
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2010-06-16 7:40 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-16 9:45 ` Vladimir Pantelic
2010-06-16 10:39 ` Mike Rapoport
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2010-06-16 11:41 ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-16 13:48 ` Jamie Bennett
2010-06-16 14:39 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-06-16 17:43 ` Tim Bird
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2010-06-16 6:52 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-06-18 22:12 ` Frank Rowand
2010-06-15 2:02 ` David Gibson
2010-06-14 15:51 ` M. Warner Losh
2010-06-13 5:48 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 5:13 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-14 6:09 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-14 6:17 ` Mitch Bradley
2010-06-12 22:15 ` Olof Johansson
2010-06-12 23:09 ` Grant Likely
2010-06-13 6:47 ` [microblaze-uclinux] " Edgar E. Iglesias
2010-06-12 3:00 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-12 3:07 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2010-06-13 13:12 ` Jeremy Kerr
2010-06-14 5:40 ` Grant Likely
2010-08-05 4:43 ` David Gibson
2010-09-01 16:19 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-13 20:03 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-14 23:44 ` Grant Likely
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2010-06-15 19:25 ` Stephan Gatzka
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2010-06-14 5:54 ` Grant Likely
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