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From: Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>
To: Richard Cochran <richardcochran@gmail.com>
Cc: Rodolfo Giometti <giometti@linux.it>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, john stultz <johnstul@us.ibm.com>,
	devicetree-discuss@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christian Riesch <christian.riesch@omicron.at>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Krzysztof Halasa <khc@pm.waw.pl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/5] ptp: Added a brand new class driver for ptp clocks.
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:41:54 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20100827134154.50eef56c@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100827075727.GA3818@riccoc20.at.omicron.at>

> The master node in a PTP network probably takes its time from a
> precise external time source, like GPS. The GPS provides a 1 PPS
> directly to the PTP clock hardware, which latches the PTP hardware
> clock time on the PPS edge. This provides one sample as input to a
> clock servo (in the PTPd) that, in turn, regulates the PTP clock
> hardware.

A PTP clock is TAI, Unix time is UTC.

> This is the core issue and source of misunderstanding, in my view. The
> fact of the matter is, the current generation of computers has
> multiple clocks, and these are usually unsynchronized. I think we
> should not try too hard to cover up or work around this. It is a fact
> of life.

In this case I don't think you can. Their divergence is rather difficult
to handle unless you have a GPS to hand.

But all this talk of "PTP this" and "PTP that" is not helpful. Any
interface for additional time sources should be generic with PTP being
one use case.

Alan

  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-27 12:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-16 11:17 [PATCH v5 0/5] ptp: IEEE 1588 clock support Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:17 ` [PATCH 1/5] ptp: Added a brand new class driver for ptp clocks Richard Cochran
     [not found]   ` <363bd749a38d0b785d8431e591bf54c38db4c2d7.1281956490.git.richard.cochran-3mrvs1K0uXizZXS1Dc/lvw@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-16 14:26     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-16 19:00       ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 19:59         ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-17  8:32           ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-17  9:25             ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]               ` <201008170925.55592.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-17 10:52                 ` Richard Cochran
     [not found]                   ` <20100817105232.GA9079-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-17 11:36                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-18  0:40                       ` john stultz
     [not found]                       ` <201008171336.29375.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-18 14:04                         ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-18 15:02                           ` Arnd Bergmann
     [not found]                             ` <201008181702.03384.arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-19  9:22                               ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-19 12:29                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-19 15:23                                   ` Ira W. Snyder
2010-08-19 15:48                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-16 19:24   ` john stultz
2010-08-16 19:38     ` john stultz
     [not found]     ` <AANLkTik_2MKMhOuDGOmu8Kzyq-ipLe+Bxrb3FaD+Tv4U-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-17  8:53       ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-18  0:22         ` john stultz
2010-08-18  7:19           ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-19  0:12             ` john stultz
     [not found]               ` <1282176776.2865.100.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-19  5:55                 ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-19 12:28                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-19 15:38                     ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-23 20:21                       ` john stultz
     [not found]                         ` <1282594899.3111.358.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-27 11:08                           ` Richard Cochran
     [not found]                             ` <20100827110855.GA11657-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-27 12:03                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-08-27 20:56                                 ` John Stultz
2010-08-27 12:45                             ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 20:14                             ` John Stultz
2010-08-23 20:08                   ` john stultz
2010-08-24 18:30                     ` Stephan Gatzka
2010-08-25  9:40                     ` Christian Riesch
2010-08-27  1:57                       ` john stultz
     [not found]                         ` <1282874269.4371.74.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-27  7:57                           ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-27 12:41                             ` Alan Cox [this message]
     [not found]                               ` <20100827134154.50eef56c-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-27 14:02                                 ` Richard Cochran
     [not found]                                   ` <20100827140205.GA3293-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-27 14:50                                     ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 15:35                                     ` M. Warner Losh
2010-08-29 13:32                               ` Christian Riesch
     [not found]                     ` <1282594125.3111.344.camel-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-27 12:38                       ` Richard Cochran
     [not found]                         ` <20100827123849.GC11657-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-27 13:38                           ` Alan Cox
     [not found]                             ` <20100827143844.646eccf6-qBU/x9rampVanCEyBjwyrvXRex20P6io@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-27 14:34                               ` Richard Cochran
     [not found]                                 ` <20100827143437.GB3293-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-08-27 15:06                                   ` Alan Cox
2010-08-27 15:21                                     ` Patrick Loschmidt
2010-08-27 16:17                                       ` Jacob Keller
2010-08-27 22:30                         ` John Stultz
2010-09-06  6:33                           ` Richard Cochran
     [not found]                             ` <20100906063327.GA4549-7KxsofuKt4IfAd9E5cN8NEzG7cXyKsk/@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-21 16:54                               ` Stephan Gatzka
2010-09-21 20:47                           ` Kyle Moffett
     [not found]                             ` <AANLkTinRM3_kBc5S3wV=_S6P8+x7A43kz0qSYbixJYnq-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2010-09-22 10:14                               ` Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:18 ` [PATCH 2/5] ptp: Added a clock that uses the Linux system time Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:18 ` [PATCH 3/5] ptp: Added a clock that uses the eTSEC found on the MPC85xx Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:18 ` [PATCH 4/5] ptp: Added a clock driver for the IXP46x Richard Cochran
2010-08-16 11:19 ` [PATCH 5/5] ptp: Added a clock driver for the National Semiconductor PHYTER Richard Cochran
2010-08-25 21:55 ` [PATCH v5 0/5] ptp: IEEE 1588 clock support Jacob Keller

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