From: Andrew Jones <ajones@ventanamicro.com>
To: Deepak Gupta <debug@rivosinc.com>
Cc: Samuel Holland <samuel.holland@sifive.com>,
Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>,
linux-riscv@lists.infradead.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, tech-j-ext@lists.risc-v.org,
Conor Dooley <conor@kernel.org>,
kasan-dev@googlegroups.com,
Evgenii Stepanov <eugenis@google.com>,
Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>, Guo Ren <guoren@kernel.org>,
Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
Paul Walmsley <paul.walmsley@sifive.com>
Subject: Re: [RISC-V] [tech-j-ext] [RFC PATCH 5/9] riscv: Split per-CPU and per-thread envcfg bits
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2024 09:09:49 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20240322-3c32873c4021477383a15f7d@orel> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKC1njQYZHbQJ71mapeG1DEw=A+aGx77xsuQGecsNFpoJ=tzGQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Tue, Mar 19, 2024 at 09:39:52PM -0700, Deepak Gupta wrote:
...
> I am not sure of the practicality of this heterogeneity for Zicboz and
> for that matter any of the upcoming
> features that'll be enabled via senvcfg (control flow integrity,
> pointer masking, etc).
>
> As an example if cache zeroing instructions are used by app binary, I
> expect it to be used in following
> manner
>
> - Explicitly inserting cbo.zero by application developer
> - Some compiler flag which ensures that structures larger than cache
> line gets zeroed by cbo.zero
>
> In either of the cases, the developer is not expecting to target it to
> a specific hart on SoC and instead expect it to work.
> There might be libraries (installed via sudo apt get) with cache zero
> support in them which may run in different address spaces.
> Should the library be aware of the CPU on which it's running. Now
> whoever is running these binaries should be aware which CPUs
> they get assigned to in order to avoid faults?
>
> That seems excessive, doesn't it?
>
It might be safe to assume extensions like Zicboz will be on all harts if
any, but I wouldn't expect all extensions in the future to be present on
all available harts. For example, some Arm big.LITTLE boards only have
virt extensions on big CPUs. When a VMM wants to launch a guest it must
be aware of which CPUs it will use for the VCPU threads. For riscv, we
have the which-cpus variant of the hwprobe syscall to try and make this
type of thing easier to manage, but I agree it will still be a pain for
software since it will need to make that query and then set its affinity,
which is something it hasn't needed to do before.
Thanks,
drew
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-03-22 8:09 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-03-19 21:58 [RFC PATCH 0/9] riscv: Userspace pointer masking and tagged address ABI Samuel Holland
2024-03-19 21:58 ` [RFC PATCH 1/9] dt-bindings: riscv: Add pointer masking ISA extensions Samuel Holland
2024-03-19 21:58 ` [RFC PATCH 2/9] riscv: Add ISA extension parsing for pointer masking Samuel Holland
2024-03-19 21:58 ` [RFC PATCH 3/9] riscv: Add CSR definitions " Samuel Holland
2024-03-19 21:58 ` [RFC PATCH 4/9] riscv: Define is_compat_thread() Samuel Holland
2024-03-19 21:58 ` [RFC PATCH 5/9] riscv: Split per-CPU and per-thread envcfg bits Samuel Holland
2024-03-19 23:55 ` [RISC-V] [tech-j-ext] " Deepak Gupta
2024-03-20 2:20 ` Samuel Holland
2024-03-20 4:39 ` Deepak Gupta
2024-03-22 0:13 ` Samuel Holland
2024-03-22 17:13 ` Deepak Gupta
2024-03-23 9:35 ` Andrew Jones
2024-03-23 20:37 ` Deepak Gupta
2024-03-22 8:09 ` Andrew Jones [this message]
2024-03-22 16:52 ` Deepak Gupta
2024-03-20 8:06 ` Conor Dooley
[not found] ` <17BE5F38AFE245E5.29196@lists.riscv.org>
2024-03-20 23:27 ` Deepak Gupta
2024-03-22 3:43 ` Samuel Holland
2024-03-22 7:58 ` Andrew Jones
2024-03-28 1:58 ` Deepak Gupta
[not found] ` <17C0CB122DBB0EAE.6770@lists.riscv.org>
2024-03-28 19:34 ` Deepak Gupta
2024-03-19 21:58 ` [RFC PATCH 6/9] riscv: Add support for userspace pointer masking Samuel Holland
2024-03-19 21:58 ` [RFC PATCH 7/9] riscv: Add support for the tagged address ABI Samuel Holland
2024-03-19 21:58 ` [RFC PATCH 8/9] riscv: Allow ptrace control of " Samuel Holland
2024-03-19 21:58 ` [RFC PATCH 9/9] selftests: riscv: Add a pointer masking test Samuel Holland
2024-03-20 17:21 ` Conor Dooley
2024-03-20 18:04 ` Samuel Holland
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