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From: Jonathan Cameron <jic23@kernel.org>
To: David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com>
Cc: "Kurt Borja" <kuurtb@gmail.com>, "Rob Herring" <robh@kernel.org>,
	"Krzysztof Kozlowski" <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Conor Dooley" <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Nuno Sá" <nuno.sa@analog.com>,
	"Andy Shevchenko" <andy@kernel.org>,
	linux-iio@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 5/7] iio: adc: ti-ads1262: Add conversion delay support
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2026 18:23:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20260706182317.64cb0a4c@jic23-huawei> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8dd4bb6b-a83d-4584-8893-b56b8aaed973@baylibre.com>

On Mon, 6 Jul 2026 11:19:40 -0500
David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com> wrote:

> On 6/30/26 7:20 PM, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> > On Tue, 30 Jun 2026 13:44:49 -0500
> > David Lechner <dlechner@baylibre.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> On 6/30/26 12:23 PM, Kurt Borja wrote:  
> >>> On Mon Jun 29, 2026 at 7:50 PM -05, Jonathan Cameron wrote:    
> >>>> On Sun, 28 Jun 2026 00:36:06 -0500
> >>>> Kurt Borja <kuurtb@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>    
> >>>>> Expose the programmable conversion start delay as a per-channel
> >>>>> IIO_CHAN_INFO_CONVDELAY attribute.    
> >>>> Coversion delay was always a somewhere weird bit of ABI.
> >>>> What are the delays relative to in this case?
> >>>> Is this a device that does simultaneous sampling?  Pictures
> >>>> suggest otherwise, and convdelay is currently only defined
> >>>> in that case.  We might be able to extend it but it needs
> >>>> some thought.    
> >>>
> >>> The chip has a configurable internal conversion delay to allow for
> >>> external settling effects. See datasheet section 9.4.3 if you'd like a
> >>> bit more details.    
> >>
> >> Since this depends on external components, it sounds like it belongs
> >> in the devicetree. I have the same feature in the chip I am working
> >> on and was just looking at this and plan to add it to the ti,ads112c14
> >> devicetree patch.
> >>
> >> This delay only applies to a "new conversion", i.e. when certain config
> >> registers change, and not every conversion, so isn't like the convdelay
> >> attribute.  
> > 
> > See settling-time-us in adc.yaml.  I'd forgotten we had that ;)  
> 
> I got some more feedback on this and this may indeed be something we
> want to tune at runtime after all.
> 
> I'm not really sure where it fits in though. On AD112C14 that I am working
> on, the DELAY register value adds a delay (for settling time) in addition
> to some other intrinsic delays. I'm pretty sure ADS1262 is similar.
> 
> So one question is do we want a usespace control to be the total delay
> or just the additional delay?
> 

Total I think.

> And when the delay takes effect depends on other things. Normally the
> delay only happens before the first sample after any other parameters
> change. If we read the same channel again with the same config, then
> there won't be any added delay. But if input chopping is enabled, then
> this delay happens on every conversion.

Hmm. That is awkward.  I guess the best we could do is either to document
it as 'may be skipped if channel setup is unchanged either via explicit
channel or parameter change, or via chopping'.  I kind of think of chopping
as advanced channel sequencing - inX-inY being switched to inY-inX with a scale
*= -1.

> 
> I'm a bit on the fence of if we should extend the definition of convdelay
> for this or if we should propose a new settling time attribute. I'll have
> to think about it some more.
Smells different enough that we shouldn't smash the two together.
> 
> Maybe something like in_voltageY_calibsettlingtime?

calib might be reasonable if it was a tweak to a fixed settling time
and like other calib stuff would not necessarily have any scaling.

If it's the whole thing and in seconds then in_voltageY_settlingtime 
should be enough I think.

Jonathan

> 
> >   
> >>  
> >>>
> >>> But you're right, I should at least also edit the ABI description of
> >>> this attribute. We can postpone this discussion for a future series.
> >>>     
> >>>>
> >>>> Jonathan    
> >>>     
> >>  
> >   
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2026-07-06 17:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-06-28  5:36 [PATCH v2 0/7] iio: adc: Add TI ADS126X ADC family support Kurt Borja
2026-06-28  5:36 ` [PATCH v2 1/7] dt-bindings: iio: adc: Add TI ADS126x ADC family Kurt Borja
2026-06-28 15:45   ` David Lechner
2026-06-28 19:12     ` Kurt Borja
2026-06-29 14:21       ` David Lechner
2026-06-29 16:27         ` Kurt Borja
2026-06-29 16:43           ` David Lechner
2026-06-30 17:14             ` Kurt Borja
2026-06-30 18:38               ` David Lechner
2026-07-01  0:28                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-06-28  5:36 ` [PATCH v2 2/7] iio: adc: Add ti-ads1262 driver Kurt Borja
2026-06-28 17:15   ` David Lechner
2026-06-28 20:00     ` Kurt Borja
2026-06-29 14:38       ` David Lechner
2026-06-30  0:32         ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-06-30 17:17           ` Kurt Borja
2026-06-30  0:28     ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-06-30  0:43   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-06-28  5:36 ` [PATCH v2 3/7] iio: adc: ti-ads1262: Add channel filter support Kurt Borja
2026-06-28  5:36 ` [PATCH v2 4/7] iio: adc: ti-ads1262: Add excitation current support Kurt Borja
2026-06-30  0:47   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-06-30 17:18     ` Kurt Borja
2026-06-28  5:36 ` [PATCH v2 5/7] iio: adc: ti-ads1262: Add conversion delay support Kurt Borja
2026-06-30  0:50   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-06-30 17:23     ` Kurt Borja
2026-06-30 18:44       ` David Lechner
2026-07-01  0:20         ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-07-06 16:19           ` David Lechner
2026-07-06 17:23             ` Jonathan Cameron [this message]
2026-07-07  1:38               ` Kurt Borja
2026-07-07  2:06                 ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-06-28  5:36 ` [PATCH v2 6/7] iio: adc: ti-ads1262: Add buffer and trigger support Kurt Borja
2026-06-30  0:54   ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-06-28  5:36 ` [PATCH v2 7/7] iio: adc: Add ti-ads1263-adc2 driver Kurt Borja
2026-06-28 17:22   ` David Lechner
2026-06-28 20:08     ` Kurt Borja
2026-06-29 16:38       ` David Lechner
2026-06-30  1:00         ` Jonathan Cameron
2026-06-30 17:57           ` Kurt Borja

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