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From: Alexander Stein <alexander.stein@ew.tq-group.com>
To: Francesco Dolcini <francesco@dolcini.it>
Cc: Frieder Schrempf <frieder.schrempf@kontron.de>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Francesco Dolcini <francesco@dolcini.it>,
	Frieder Schrempf <frieder@fris.de>,
	Srinivas Kandagatla <srini@kernel.org>,
	Rob Herring <robh@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzk+dt@kernel.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>, Frank Li <Frank.Li@nxp.com>,
	Sascha Hauer <s.hauer@pengutronix.de>,
	Pengutronix Kernel Team <kernel@pengutronix.de>,
	Fabio Estevam <festevam@gmail.com>,
	Shawn Guo <shawnguo@kernel.org>,
	Pankaj Gupta <pankaj.gupta@nxp.com>,
	"Peng Fan (OSS)" <peng.fan@oss.nxp.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, imx@lists.linux.dev,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 10/10] arm64: dts: imx93-kontron: Enable ELE firmware driver
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2026 14:37:27 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <3056369.e9J7NaK4W3@steina-w> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20260714123350.GD22086@francesco-nb>

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Am Dienstag, 14. Juli 2026, 14:33:50 CEST schrieb Francesco Dolcini:
> On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 02:06:38PM +0200, Alexander Stein wrote:
> > Am Dienstag, 14. Juli 2026, 11:33:54 CEST schrieb Francesco Dolcini:
> > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 10:43:56AM +0200, Frieder Schrempf wrote:
> > > > On 14.07.26 10:32, Francesco Dolcini wrote:
> > > > > On Tue, Jul 14, 2026 at 10:09:11AM +0200, Frieder Schrempf wrote:
> > > > >> Hi Francesco,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On 14.07.26 08:59, Francesco Dolcini wrote:
> > > > >>> Hello Frieder,
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Mon, Jul 13, 2026 at 04:53:46PM +0200, Frieder Schrempf wrote:
> > > > >>>> From: Frieder Schrempf <frieder.schrempf@kontron.de>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> Add the ELE firmware API node and pass its handle to the OCOTP
> > > > >>>> driver. This allows us to gain read/write access to the OTP fuses.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> This seems something we should have in the soc dtsi (imx93/imx91), it
> > > > >>> does not seems board specific.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> My original intention was to move as much as possible into the SoC dtsi.
> > > > >> The problem is that the memory node is somewhat board specific due to
> > > > >> the DDR. And I can't move the firmware node into the SoC dtsi and assign
> > > > >> the memory node in the board dts as the checks for all boards not
> > > > >> specifying a memory node would fail then.
> > > > > 
> > > > > What is the reason to have this memory address different on various
> > > > > boards? Can we have a default in the soc dtsi, and allow the board to
> > > > > override the address if needed?
> > > > 
> > > > There is no real point in having different addresses on different
> > > > boards. But the node describes memory that is physically on the board
> > > > and not on the SoC. And I think that is why DT maintainers want to have
> > > > it in the board DT. It's the same with the memory nodes for the
> > > > remoteproc drivers to communicate with the Cortex M-Cores in the i.MX.
> > > > But maybe I'm wrong and if there is a possibility to move this to the
> > > > SoC DT I will definitely take it.
> > 
> > We are talking about reserved memory, so this is highly board-specific.
> > So for different hardware variants with different amount of RAM you have to
> > go for the minimum anyway.
> > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Or can't you add the address in all the boards, and keep everything else
> > > > > in the soc dtsi?
> > > > This could be a possible way, yes. In that case maybe we could even
> > > > create a generic dtsi to contain such defaults for all boards.
> > > 
> > > I would go for this solution, we could have something like
> > > `k3-am62-ti-ipc-firmware.dtsi`, include it from all the boards, have a
> > > sane default memory address, and have an easy way to override the memory
> > > address from the board dts, if needed.
> > 
> > So what is a sane default? At the end of the minimal possible RAM?
> > I'm not really fond of something you have to make sure matches to your
> > hardware, but won't raise an error if you forgot.
> > 
> > How about providing defaults for the SoC part and users have to provide their
> > memory on board-level? Similar to the VPU nodes on imx8qm/imx8qxp. There you
> > have to specify memory-region in your board.
> 
> I am personally ok with both solution.
> 
> I think it is easy to have a sane default in this case. You cannot have
> less than 256MiB in practice, and this is just about the offset, is not
> that you are going to want more memory reserved if the board has more
> memory available.
> 
> At the same time, having the memory range in the board dts is also ok to
> me.

I'm just saying, because we had lots of problem with assumed offsets/length
in code/DT for NXP boards. They usually come with big/huge amount of RAM.
This breaks for all hardware using a small amount of RAM.
So it's better to not have a default than silently breaking things because
the default doesn't match.

Best regards,
Alexander
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      reply	other threads:[~2026-07-14 12:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-07-13 14:53 [PATCH v2 00/10] Support ELE API in i.MX OCOTP NVMEM driver Frieder Schrempf
2026-07-13 14:53 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] dt-bindings: nvmem: imx-ocotp: Add support for secure-enclave Frieder Schrempf
2026-07-14  8:00   ` Frieder Schrempf
2026-07-13 14:53 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] firmware: imx: ele: Fix indentation in ele_base_msg.h Frieder Schrempf
2026-07-14 14:08   ` Frank Li
2026-07-13 14:53 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] firmware: imx: ele: Export API functions Frieder Schrempf
2026-07-14 14:08   ` Frank Li
2026-07-13 14:53 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] nvmem: imx-ocotp-ele: Add keepout table for i.MX93 Frieder Schrempf
2026-07-13 14:53 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] nvmem: imx-ocotp-ele: Remove device-specific reg_read() Frieder Schrempf
2026-07-13 14:53 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] nvmem: imx-ocotp-ele: Use __free(kfree) in imx_ocotp_reg_read() Frieder Schrempf
2026-07-13 14:53 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] nvmem: imx-ocotp-ele: Support the ELE API Frieder Schrempf
2026-07-13 14:53 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] nvmem: imx-ocotp-ele: Remove the FUSE_ELE type Frieder Schrempf
2026-07-13 14:53 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] nvmem: imx-ocotp-ele: Rename FSB access map Frieder Schrempf
2026-07-13 14:53 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] arm64: dts: imx93-kontron: Enable ELE firmware driver Frieder Schrempf
2026-07-14  6:59   ` Francesco Dolcini
2026-07-14  8:09     ` Frieder Schrempf
2026-07-14  8:32       ` Francesco Dolcini
2026-07-14  8:43         ` Frieder Schrempf
2026-07-14  9:33           ` Francesco Dolcini
2026-07-14 12:06             ` Alexander Stein
2026-07-14 12:33               ` Francesco Dolcini
2026-07-14 12:37                 ` Alexander Stein [this message]

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