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From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski@linaro.org>,
	Nishanth Menon <nm@ti.com>, Vignesh Raghavendra <vigneshr@ti.com>,
	Tero Kristo <kristo@kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <krzysztof.kozlowski+dt@linaro.org>,
	Conor Dooley <conor+dt@kernel.org>,
	Bao Cheng Su <baocheng.su@siemens.com>,
	Chao Zeng <chao.zeng@siemens.com>
Cc: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Li Hua Qian <huaqian.li@siemens.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] dts: iot2050: Support IOT2050-SM variant
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2023 16:37:42 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <62be89bb-1ae1-4bf6-9f9e-b6eb68e6504d@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ce6b002b-f2a6-4056-bf81-53a6c948b946@linaro.org>

On 19.12.23 10:58, Krzysztof Kozlowski wrote:
> On 19/12/2023 10:54, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>>>> You mean label. Why node names became the ABI? Which interface exposes them?
>>>>
>>>> root@iot2050-debian:~# ls -l /sys/class/leds/
>>>> total 0
>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Dec 19 08:55 mmc0:: -> ../../devices/platform/bus@100000/4fa0000.mmc/leds/mmc0::
>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Dec 19 08:55 mmc1:: -> ../../devices/platform/bus@100000/4f80000.mmc/leds/mmc1::
>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Dec 14 21:12 status-led-green -> ../../devices/platform/leds/leds/status-led-green
>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Dec 19 08:55 status-led-red -> ../../devices/platform/leds/leds/status-led-red
>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Dec 19 08:55 user-led1-green -> ../../devices/platform/leds/leds/user-led1-green
>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Dec 19 08:55 user-led1-red -> ../../devices/platform/leds/leds/user-led1-red
>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Dec 19 08:55 user-led2-green -> ../../devices/platform/leds/leds/user-led2-green
>>>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 0 Dec 19 08:55 user-led2-red -> ../../devices/platform/leds/leds/user-led2-red
>>>
>>> I replied too fast previous and did not include answer here:
>>>
>>> You have label for that... Somehow all these nodes are half-baked,
>>> without all the expected properties and now you call node name as ABI.
>>> The node name is not the ABI.
>>
>> Well, existing userspace uses those names, and adding the properties
>> would break that interface. Now, does Linux do that?
> 
> I don't think you understood the concept. There is no change for
> userspace. Same interface, same names. No ABI break.

I do understand the impact very well:
open("/sys/class/leds/user-led1-red") has to work for all the variants,
consistently and backward-compatible for userspace.

> 
> Anyway, changing them is not part of this patchset since these are not
> new nodes.

Fine, then we can leave the LED topic aside for now.

I will look into the other comments.

Jan

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-19 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-12-18 16:35 [PATCH 0/4] arm64: dts: iot2050: Add support for new SM variant Jan Kiszka
2023-12-18 16:35 ` [PATCH 1/4] dt-bindings: arm: ti: Add binding for Siemens IOT2050 " Jan Kiszka
2023-12-19  7:50   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-12-18 16:35 ` [PATCH 2/4] arm64: dts: ti: iot2050: Disable R5 lockstep for all PG2 boards Jan Kiszka
2023-12-18 16:35 ` [PATCH 3/4] arm64: dts: ti: iot2050: Factor out arduino connector bits Jan Kiszka
2023-12-19  7:51   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-12-19  8:06     ` Jan Kiszka
2023-12-19  8:12       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-12-19  8:18         ` Jan Kiszka
2023-12-18 16:36 ` [PATCH 4/4] dts: iot2050: Support IOT2050-SM variant Jan Kiszka
2023-12-19  7:54   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-12-19  8:22     ` Jan Kiszka
2023-12-19  8:48       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-12-19  9:03         ` Jan Kiszka
2023-12-19  9:45           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-12-19  9:50           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-12-19  9:54             ` Jan Kiszka
2023-12-19  9:56               ` Jan Kiszka
2023-12-19  9:58               ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-12-19 15:37                 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2023-12-19 15:39                   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-12-19 15:40                     ` Jan Kiszka
2023-12-19 15:42                       ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2023-12-19 15:48                         ` Jan Kiszka
2023-12-19 15:56                           ` Krzysztof Kozlowski

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